Motherwell “The Family Club” –TCN Statement.

Over the past week or so TCN has been inundated with replies from Motherwell fans and others including certain members of the “Tartan Army” regarding our Article Motherwell “The Family Club” .
Most of the replies have been nothing more than Whataboutery and denial and shouts of Paranoia. We took the decision not to print these replies as they do not in any way contribute to tackling sectarianism and racism in Scotland.
The Celtic Network will not be a platform for denial. To these aggrieved people we would point out that there are many blogs and discussions on this site where Celtic fans have sought to discuss and address perceived problems within our own support. An example others should follow.
So before you bother getting involved in a one way slanging match we suggest you start to address the problems of sectarianism and racism within your own support.
The Whataboutery and denial merchants have for years had a platform within the Scottish mainstream media to deflect from their own faults. We will not give them that platform.
The Celtic Network are happy to engage with any supporters group who genuinely want to stamp our racism and sectarianism is Scotland but we will not publish Whataboutery, denial or downright abuse.

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Comments

  1. The camera does not lie, and they should have been printed, but like i say the camera does not lie.

  2. The camera does not lie, and they should have been printed, but like i say the camera does not lie.

  3. Firstly, Having seen the video of the knuckle draggers who are in the Motherwell Lodge on cup final day i am pretty much embarrassed that they have the cheek to wear Motherwell strips (Most of which wont belong to them) These people are a typical display of small town Lanarkshire Rangers fans who unfortunately chose to support us on what was the biggest footballing day for my club in 20yrs. I feel your comment mocking our “family club” image is an insult to the good supporters we have, i’m sure many of you will disbelieve there are good supporters at Motherwell, as is a celtic fans attitude, but i assure you there are!! I like most Motherwell fans i know are not interested in Celtic, Rangers, Religion or sectarianism, this video is not a reflection on us as a club but purely a reflection of a religious based institution (orange lodge) and some of its moronic participants, same as you’ll find in many a St columbus club around the area.I see you have withdrawn the tit for tat comments made by others due to you wishing to remain “in the right”, so i doubt there’s any point in me typing a reply, but please get your own house in order before you have digs at any other club. Good luck to Celtic for the rest of the season!!

    1. Cheers Well fan. Every club in this country has an element within their support that is unacceptable to the vast majority of fans. We would just like that to be acknowledged and tackled so that we can tackle these problems and move on.
      However I think you’ll find that Celtic fans have been getting our own house sorted out since the Bhoys Against Bigotry campaign in the 1990’s. Unfortunately over the past couple of seasons some unacceptable songs have crept back in but again we are working as a support to sort that out which is far more than any other set of fans in this country have done.

      1. James I don’t for one minute believe it’s a case of highlighting the incident for it to be tackled and moved on? It’s a case of wanting to highlight the incident in a “We’re no the only ones” type of thing!! Which to be honest I don’t actually blame Celtic fans for doing so, Both you and the decent Rangers fans out there are being hounded a bit!! But honestly, highlighting an Orange Lodge …..in Motherwell…..on Cup final day….against Celtic??? What exactly did you expect? The knuckle draggers all walking around in Celtic strips?? No, as I stated before these were idiots jumping on the bandwagon supporting a team who mean nothing to them so they have someone to cheer on against Celtic.
        I recognise the Bhoys Against Bigotry did try and stamp an influence on your support in the mid 90s and I do feel it did work for a while, for one reason or another though its back!! Not at Celtic Park I have to say, its your travelling support who need to be watched and stricter guidance given to who gets tickets. I have a 6 yr old son who I take to the matches, we sit in the main stand at fir park and the bile we have to listen to against both you and Rangers is simply disgusting!! Last season after listening to 85 minutes of Pro terrorist songs I left with 5 minutes to go with my lad only to be shouted at “Go Home ya Huns” when I looked up there must’ve been a dozen or so Celtic fans laughing away, Now if it was just me, I really wouldn’t care less, but when your son asks you after that “Dad what’s a hun”?? what are you meant to tell him!! Its people like that who give Celtic a bad name!! and its things like this that feed into the psyche of a young supporter who will now recognise Celtic as being bad…”cos they shouted at me”!! I now no longer take him to old firm games as its not a healthy environment to be in.
        I’d also like to point out Motherwell as a club have tried hard to eradicate any forms of bigotry and racism from our support and ground, this has been ongoing since the 1980s, Motherwell give out 100s of free tickets on a weekly basis to all forms of schools around Lanarkshire and have been encouraging familys from all denominations to attend games!! An issue I have with Celtic is that they feed on the Catholic school system to try and promote the club, which I feel is wrong. I was not aware of this until my son started school a couple of years ago, My son attends a catholic school in Hamilton where prior to the October Break last year and this year a Celtic player came in and spoke to them and handed out leaflets on attending their soccer school. Now I am fully aware Hamilton Accies do a similar type of course albeit cheaper, now when I spoke to a connection I have at Accies they said they tried to go round a number of catholic schools in Hamilton and were blocked from speaking to the kids and blocked from handing out leaflets. As my sons school is in Hamilton I couldn’t believe that they allowed a Glasgow side to come in and not a local team so I spoke to the assistant head, who informed me that Celtic donated money to the school to do it and do so every year!! I find this utterly disgusting flaunting their wealth and so called religious connections and I think the schools and club should have a look at themselves, how can smaller clubs survive and Scottish clubs grow when things like this happen.
        Anyway I digress, Lets hope this season there is an improvement in all round behaviour at games and in society and as I said before good luck for the season.

  4. Firstly, Having seen the video of the knuckle draggers who are in the Motherwell Lodge on cup final day i am pretty much embarrassed that they have the cheek to wear Motherwell strips (Most of which wont belong to them) These people are a typical display of small town Lanarkshire Rangers fans who unfortunately chose to support us on what was the biggest footballing day for my club in 20yrs. I feel your comment mocking our “family club” image is an insult to the good supporters we have, i’m sure many of you will disbelieve there are good supporters at Motherwell, as is a celtic fans attitude, but i assure you there are!! I like most Motherwell fans i know are not interested in Celtic, Rangers, Religion or sectarianism, this video is not a reflection on us as a club but purely a reflection of a religious based institution (orange lodge) and some of its moronic participants, same as you’ll find in many a St columbus club around the area.I see you have withdrawn the tit for tat comments made by others due to you wishing to remain “in the right”, so i doubt there’s any point in me typing a reply, but please get your own house in order before you have digs at any other club. Good luck to Celtic for the rest of the season!!

    1. Cheers Well fan. Every club in this country has an element within their support that is unacceptable to the vast majority of fans. We would just like that to be acknowledged and tackled so that we can tackle these problems and move on.
      However I think you’ll find that Celtic fans have been getting our own house sorted out since the Bhoys Against Bigotry campaign in the 1990’s. Unfortunately over the past couple of seasons some unacceptable songs have crept back in but again we are working as a support to sort that out which is far more than any other set of fans in this country have done.

      1. James I don’t for one minute believe it’s a case of highlighting the incident for it to be tackled and moved on? It’s a case of wanting to highlight the incident in a “We’re no the only ones” type of thing!! Which to be honest I don’t actually blame Celtic fans for doing so, Both you and the decent Rangers fans out there are being hounded a bit!! But honestly, highlighting an Orange Lodge …..in Motherwell…..on Cup final day….against Celtic??? What exactly did you expect? The knuckle draggers all walking around in Celtic strips?? No, as I stated before these were idiots jumping on the bandwagon supporting a team who mean nothing to them so they have someone to cheer on against Celtic.
        I recognise the Bhoys Against Bigotry did try and stamp an influence on your support in the mid 90s and I do feel it did work for a while, for one reason or another though its back!! Not at Celtic Park I have to say, its your travelling support who need to be watched and stricter guidance given to who gets tickets. I have a 6 yr old son who I take to the matches, we sit in the main stand at fir park and the bile we have to listen to against both you and Rangers is simply disgusting!! Last season after listening to 85 minutes of Pro terrorist songs I left with 5 minutes to go with my lad only to be shouted at “Go Home ya Huns” when I looked up there must’ve been a dozen or so Celtic fans laughing away, Now if it was just me, I really wouldn’t care less, but when your son asks you after that “Dad what’s a hun”?? what are you meant to tell him!! Its people like that who give Celtic a bad name!! and its things like this that feed into the psyche of a young supporter who will now recognise Celtic as being bad…”cos they shouted at me”!! I now no longer take him to old firm games as its not a healthy environment to be in.
        I’d also like to point out Motherwell as a club have tried hard to eradicate any forms of bigotry and racism from our support and ground, this has been ongoing since the 1980s, Motherwell give out 100s of free tickets on a weekly basis to all forms of schools around Lanarkshire and have been encouraging familys from all denominations to attend games!! An issue I have with Celtic is that they feed on the Catholic school system to try and promote the club, which I feel is wrong. I was not aware of this until my son started school a couple of years ago, My son attends a catholic school in Hamilton where prior to the October Break last year and this year a Celtic player came in and spoke to them and handed out leaflets on attending their soccer school. Now I am fully aware Hamilton Accies do a similar type of course albeit cheaper, now when I spoke to a connection I have at Accies they said they tried to go round a number of catholic schools in Hamilton and were blocked from speaking to the kids and blocked from handing out leaflets. As my sons school is in Hamilton I couldn’t believe that they allowed a Glasgow side to come in and not a local team so I spoke to the assistant head, who informed me that Celtic donated money to the school to do it and do so every year!! I find this utterly disgusting flaunting their wealth and so called religious connections and I think the schools and club should have a look at themselves, how can smaller clubs survive and Scottish clubs grow when things like this happen.
        Anyway I digress, Lets hope this season there is an improvement in all round behaviour at games and in society and as I said before good luck for the season.

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