Poppy Time Again.

It’s that time of year again when everybody is asked to wear a Poppy to show remembrance to ordinary people who gave their lives for what they believed was the greater good. It’s also the time of year that Celtic fans get unfairly singled out for abuse and RFC parade UK Armed Forces to claim them as exclusively theirs. Given their fight against paying their Tax it’s good to see that Irony is alive and well at Ibrox.
It’s also a time to feel the hurt of everyone who lost their limbs, lives and family members in wars generated by politicians and the Aristocracy to protect their livelihood, investments and preserve their privileges.
When I was a wee boy you innocently wore the poppy to remember the people who died in the wars. That is fair enough. I doubt there is a family in the British Isles (Including ROI) who were not affected by the two world wars in the 20th Century. However in modern times myself and many others of all political, ethnic and religious backgrounds feel as if we are being forced into commemorating an unacceptable loss of lives for all the wrong reasons.
What was once a genuine remembrance of lives lost has over the past decade been turned into an annual political event. Surely this is not acceptable?
The people who suffered and died in these wars did not give their lives and limbs in order to allow the Politicians and the right wing press in this country to brow beat everyone to wear a Poppy whether they liked it or not. I think they gave their lives to allow people to make their own decisions. You can say that they were misguided in joining the Armed Forces but the truth is most recruits have no other way out of a life of unemployment and dead end jobs. That has always been the case.
The first and second world Wars were a shameful waste of lives covering every nation that were involved. Those wars were the dying embers of European Colonial rule throughout the world. There was a genuine threat especially in the second world war that the British Isles could have been invaded and I doubt with hindsight any of us (except for the Daily Mail) would have welcomed that given the nature of the enemy.
However the sacrifice of those who lived and died through those wars has been used by politicians in this country to legitimise an illegal war and the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people in IRAQ. Since then Britain has moved on to Afghanistan the ultimate unwinnable war where innocent people have died alongside young service men and women.
This is why I can’t accept Celtic FC or any other football club being bullied by the press and politicians into wearing a Poppy on their shirt. If clubs including Celtic choose to wear a Poppy on their tops then fair enough but they should not be doing it just to avoid a backlash from the ”popular press”.
I accept and I’m proud that Celtic and football players from other clubs gave their lives and careers for what they seen as the greater good. However what I can’t accept is the fact that politicians and the rightwing media in this country are trying to pressurise clubs, supporters and ordinary people into backing and in turn justifying the needless death of innocent people.
If someone disagrees with wearing a Poppy or Remembrance Sunday in general they should be allowed to express that in whichever way they see fit as long as it is not distasteful. Their views should be respected not belittled.
The Celtic support have been singled out for a disproportionate amount of abuse every year that there is a minutes silence held at a football ground. There are always those with keen hearing waiting to hear a crisp poke rattle so they can jump on the bandwagon and insult our supporters.  What these people fail to accept is the fact that Celtic are unique in terms of where we draw some of our support from. It has to be acknowledged and respected that we have supporters from Nationalist and Republican communities in N.Ireland and ROI who have legitimate reasons for seeing UK Armed forces as the enemy. This is historic; it goes back hundreds of years and will not change anytime soon.
Those who get on their high horse denounce them should remember that people gave their lives to defend free speech and freedom of expression. Whether you agree with their views or not.
Will I wear a Poppy on the 11th of November  ? Well that’s nobody’s business because it is my personal private choice. What I won’t be doing is having a go at those who do or don’t.

Comments

  1. This is an excellent article. Personally I will not be wearing a red poppy but if the opportunity presents it’s self in the coming days for me to buy a white poppy, I will do that. The white poppy is supposed to give people the chance to respect the war dead while detaching themselves from the militaristic and political side of the event. That means my white poppy with respect those who were falsely led or forced by conscription into an unnecessary war whether it be the second world war, Iraq, Afghanistan or others and it will respect 1.5 million innocent Iraqis who lost their lives. In the second world war the Nazis and the allies were both funded by the same banks in the UK and America. The Duke of Edinburgh was photographed marching with his Nazi brother-in-law and the storm-troopers yet he will be laying red poppies in remembrance of those he had a hand in killing this Sunday. I hope Celtic become the first club in the UK to wear the white poppy on their shirts to make a stance against this annual propaganda and celebration of death and war.

  2. This is an excellent article. Personally I will not be wearing a red poppy but if the opportunity presents it’s self in the coming days for me to buy a white poppy, I will do that. The white poppy is supposed to give people the chance to respect the war dead while detaching themselves from the militaristic and political side of the event. That means my white poppy with respect those who were falsely led or forced by conscription into an unnecessary war whether it be the second world war, Iraq, Afghanistan or others and it will respect 1.5 million innocent Iraqis who lost their lives. In the second world war the Nazis and the allies were both funded by the same banks in the UK and America. The Duke of Edinburgh was photographed marching with his Nazi brother-in-law and the storm-troopers yet he will be laying red poppies in remembrance of those he had a hand in killing this Sunday. I hope Celtic become the first club in the UK to wear the white poppy on their shirts to make a stance against this annual propaganda and celebration of death and war.

  3. Good article.
    I Always bought one, every year. This year I wont be buying one, simply because of what rangers fc & people like leckie have turned this into.
    Shameful point scoring excercise, every year it gets worse.

  4. Good article.
    I Always bought one, every year. This year I wont be buying one, simply because of what rangers fc & people like leckie have turned this into.
    Shameful point scoring excercise, every year it gets worse.

  5. if it wiznae for those who faught and died in both world wars then we would,nt have our football team to support….and at the end o the day thats what we are …a football team ..sport not bloody polotics !!!!!!

  6. if it wiznae for those who faught and died in both world wars then we would,nt have our football team to support….and at the end o the day thats what we are …a football team ..sport not bloody polotics !!!!!!

  7. Poppies are meant to be worn to remember ordinary men and women who died for freedom, democracy and to defeat the brutal regimes of facism, nazism and communism. They’re not meant to be worn for imperialist triumphalism. Some people need to be reminded of that.

  8. Poppies are meant to be worn to remember ordinary men and women who died for freedom, democracy and to defeat the brutal regimes of facism, nazism and communism. They’re not meant to be worn for imperialist triumphalism. Some people need to be reminded of that.

  9. A great article, that is testament to the very nature of the those who came before to defend the right for you to have your say. For me the Poppy represents all those who have suffered as a result of armed conflict throughout the world. Civilians, soldiers, families, winners, losers. Be very careful not to associate the freedom fighter with a mission to “free” their country from oppression, with those who seek to destroy anything that stands in their way for nothing more than a mindless act of violence.
    For me I will continue to donate a handsome amount each year to the British Legion for the work they do helping the families of those injured and if I choose to publicly display my support by wearing a Red Poppy then that is my choice – but I will not be bullied or made to feel guilty about not wearing one.
    As for the white poppy – its a cowardly act – Celtic Football Club has many fans past and present who have served, sons and daughters who have chosen to put themselves in harms way for others. It is right that they should support those, JUST AS THEY SHOULD SUPPORT THE FIGHT TO KILL THE BILL!
    You cannot distance yourself from the truth – war is a military event.
    The RED POPPY represents the soldier (their families and friends) who have given their lives without question to put themselves in harms way. If you agree with the politics of the campaign or not you CANNOT deny the sacrifice given in helping others without prejudice.
    In any conflict you can find good and bad – how many Celtic fans know that a member of the british army saved the life of a senior IRA figure only to later have his legs blown off?
    I encourage you all to show your support for those of the Celtic family who have given their lives in service to others.

  10. A great article, that is testament to the very nature of the those who came before to defend the right for you to have your say. For me the Poppy represents all those who have suffered as a result of armed conflict throughout the world. Civilians, soldiers, families, winners, losers. Be very careful not to associate the freedom fighter with a mission to “free” their country from oppression, with those who seek to destroy anything that stands in their way for nothing more than a mindless act of violence.
    For me I will continue to donate a handsome amount each year to the British Legion for the work they do helping the families of those injured and if I choose to publicly display my support by wearing a Red Poppy then that is my choice – but I will not be bullied or made to feel guilty about not wearing one.
    As for the white poppy – its a cowardly act – Celtic Football Club has many fans past and present who have served, sons and daughters who have chosen to put themselves in harms way for others. It is right that they should support those, JUST AS THEY SHOULD SUPPORT THE FIGHT TO KILL THE BILL!
    You cannot distance yourself from the truth – war is a military event.
    The RED POPPY represents the soldier (their families and friends) who have given their lives without question to put themselves in harms way. If you agree with the politics of the campaign or not you CANNOT deny the sacrifice given in helping others without prejudice.
    In any conflict you can find good and bad – how many Celtic fans know that a member of the british army saved the life of a senior IRA figure only to later have his legs blown off?
    I encourage you all to show your support for those of the Celtic family who have given their lives in service to others.

  11. I thoroughly agree with this. The poppy appeal has become an unsightly demand for political support for current military action. Service men and women should not have to rely on charity to cope with the transition back to civilian life, often with horrific physical or mental problems. Maybe that should be the focus of people’s ire rather than what is fast becoming an obsession with the armed forces that is starting to resemble that of North Korea. I applaud those who give money and show support for those damaged by war, I despair for those who want to revel in military conflict.

  12. I thoroughly agree with this. The poppy appeal has become an unsightly demand for political support for current military action. Service men and women should not have to rely on charity to cope with the transition back to civilian life, often with horrific physical or mental problems. Maybe that should be the focus of people’s ire rather than what is fast becoming an obsession with the armed forces that is starting to resemble that of North Korea. I applaud those who give money and show support for those damaged by war, I despair for those who want to revel in military conflict.

  13. What a wanker I wear my poppy proud as my great granda lost his life in war.
    As for your support seeing the British army as the enemy fuck off to Iraq or afghan and fight against this enemy u silly cunt I hope an extremist tries to decapitate you on our streets or trying to blow up busses tubes hotels?

    1. I’m sure your Great Granda will be proud to know he gave his life so that you could express your opinion. However it seems a pity that you choose to sully his sacrifice by using your right to free speech to write such a piece of poison.
      I think your Granda was probably ten times the man you are. I’m sure he would not wish death on anyone.
      I’ve retained your real name and email address along with other info because I’m no to sure what your wrote was entirely legal 🙂
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