A New poll on Pro IRA chants and songs

Before TCN makes any statement on yesterdays UEFA fine for ‘illicit’ chanting we would like to get a feel of how the Celtic support now feels about IRA chants at Celtic games.
We are running a poll on our facebook page here http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003230886291&sk=wall
If your not a member of Facebook please leave a comment on this blog or on our Twitter Page CelticNetwork11
Hail, Hail

Comments

  1. Get rid of the chants at the football grounds. We are an inclusive club and these chants are divisive.

  2. Get rid of the chants at the football grounds. We are an inclusive club and these chants are divisive.

  3. IRA chants have never been acceptable at Celtic. It was embarassing in the 70’s and its crass stupidity now. People are playing into the hands of the establishment and their “both as bad as each other” strategy.
    The traditional songs such Boys of the Old Brigade are fantastic but best kept within our own ranks.

  4. IRA chants have never been acceptable at Celtic. It was embarassing in the 70’s and its crass stupidity now. People are playing into the hands of the establishment and their “both as bad as each other” strategy.
    The traditional songs such Boys of the Old Brigade are fantastic but best kept within our own ranks.

  5. Not on facebook or twitter. I love the song Boys of the Old Brigade, Irish Soldier Laddie etc and think they should be sung at Celtic Park. But we can leave out any reference to the IRA and they (the ones out to get us) should not have anything to complain about!
    Hail, hail!

  6. Not on facebook or twitter. I love the song Boys of the Old Brigade, Irish Soldier Laddie etc and think they should be sung at Celtic Park. But we can leave out any reference to the IRA and they (the ones out to get us) should not have anything to complain about!
    Hail, hail!

  7. We have to understand that we’ve been drawn into a war that we can’t win even though for the large part we are in the right.
    For me I think the Celtic Symphony needs cleaned up (ooh ah up the ra), drop any references to the PIRA, and sadly the BOTOB will have to be sacrificed. I understand that the reference is to fighters of Irish independence and technically and legally no different to Flower of Scotland, but it is deliberately being misrepresented as something else. Unfortunately I think we have to reluctantly give ground on this as I can’t see anyone standing up for the song and we’ll be perceived as sectarian along with the real bigots in this country.
    Once we do give ground however I would like to see a counter-attack by the club and the catholic church against Orange order marches and anti-catholic attitudes in Scotland.

  8. We have to understand that we’ve been drawn into a war that we can’t win even though for the large part we are in the right.
    For me I think the Celtic Symphony needs cleaned up (ooh ah up the ra), drop any references to the PIRA, and sadly the BOTOB will have to be sacrificed. I understand that the reference is to fighters of Irish independence and technically and legally no different to Flower of Scotland, but it is deliberately being misrepresented as something else. Unfortunately I think we have to reluctantly give ground on this as I can’t see anyone standing up for the song and we’ll be perceived as sectarian along with the real bigots in this country.
    Once we do give ground however I would like to see a counter-attack by the club and the catholic church against Orange order marches and anti-catholic attitudes in Scotland.

  9. Stop the pro IRA songs plenty of songs in our song book to sing. Don’t give those who hate us a stick to beat us with and drag us down. We are CELTIC and are open to all!!
    Hail

  10. Stop the pro IRA songs plenty of songs in our song book to sing. Don’t give those who hate us a stick to beat us with and drag us down. We are CELTIC and are open to all!!
    Hail

  11. From its inception Celtic has always had a political component – creating an institution to raise money to help those of us with too little to eat being a profoundly political and moral act. Indeed, during a time of repression against Irish people in Scotland creating a a club – open to all but organised by Irish people – was seen as a political act in itself.
    Politics and political principles have a role to play in all areas of life and that includes sporting institutions. The world would be a poorer place if Tommie Smith and John Carlos had not given the Black Power salute at the Mexico City Olympics in 1968, if FC Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao had not forged a unity of purpose among their communities to resist Franco’s fascism or if the world had not united together in the sporting boycott against apartheid South Africa. So too would the world be a poorer place if Celtic fans had not – and did not continue – to voice their support for democratic, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, anti-sectarian causes especially Irish republicanism.
    Music and politics go hand-in-hand from Beethoven’s Ode to Joy to The Clash’s London’s Burning and our rebel songs form part of a rich tapestry of worldwide protest songs. We should publicly cherish them and sing them proudly.
    The Troubles are over but there is still much work to be done to engender justice in Ireland and for all communities in Scotland. That includes re-enforcing the message that Irish republicanism is a just cause, that the IRA were not a religiously sectarian organisation and that all people (Unionist, nationalist, communist, neo-liberal) have a right to political freedom of expression.
    Let The People Sing!

  12. From its inception Celtic has always had a political component – creating an institution to raise money to help those of us with too little to eat being a profoundly political and moral act. Indeed, during a time of repression against Irish people in Scotland creating a a club – open to all but organised by Irish people – was seen as a political act in itself.
    Politics and political principles have a role to play in all areas of life and that includes sporting institutions. The world would be a poorer place if Tommie Smith and John Carlos had not given the Black Power salute at the Mexico City Olympics in 1968, if FC Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao had not forged a unity of purpose among their communities to resist Franco’s fascism or if the world had not united together in the sporting boycott against apartheid South Africa. So too would the world be a poorer place if Celtic fans had not – and did not continue – to voice their support for democratic, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, anti-sectarian causes especially Irish republicanism.
    Music and politics go hand-in-hand from Beethoven’s Ode to Joy to The Clash’s London’s Burning and our rebel songs form part of a rich tapestry of worldwide protest songs. We should publicly cherish them and sing them proudly.
    The Troubles are over but there is still much work to be done to engender justice in Ireland and for all communities in Scotland. That includes re-enforcing the message that Irish republicanism is a just cause, that the IRA were not a religiously sectarian organisation and that all people (Unionist, nationalist, communist, neo-liberal) have a right to political freedom of expression.
    Let The People Sing!

  13. Give the ra chants a rest ffs ,theve got feck all to with celtic,weve all creeds and religions and nationalites in the celtic family.Were not all from irish backgrounds ,please stop all this shite.

  14. Give the ra chants a rest ffs ,theve got feck all to with celtic,weve all creeds and religions and nationalites in the celtic family.Were not all from irish backgrounds ,please stop all this shite.

  15. Sean Livas’ comments sum the matter up perfect for me; well thought out and excellent points raised

  16. Sean Livas’ comments sum the matter up perfect for me; well thought out and excellent points raised

  17. As an Irishman I am sickened that these ira chants have creeped their way back into our stadiums and am horrified that UEFA have fined us and this whole mess has blackened our good name.
    We need to self police again and need to talk to the Greeeen Brigade asap.
    I still don´t think it´s illegal but who cares? It needs to be kicked into touch.

  18. As an Irishman I am sickened that these ira chants have creeped their way back into our stadiums and am horrified that UEFA have fined us and this whole mess has blackened our good name.
    We need to self police again and need to talk to the Greeeen Brigade asap.
    I still don´t think it´s illegal but who cares? It needs to be kicked into touch.

  19. PJ….the GB have informed all in section 111 not to sing oo a up the ra since March this year. Cannot be held responsible for those individuals outside 111. We are however a handy scapegoat. Celtic PLC were furious that at the recent 50 minute sit down protest a large amount of fans showed vocal support for the GB and were in a long meeting on the Monday after it. I was told they felt the support had to become divided and if possible put us back in the role of the pantomime bad guys. By accepting this fine it’s already happened as can be seen. I believe there should not be songs sang with the Provisional IRA words in them however I also would rather give them up of our own choice (which we have done) than be lied to and “forced” into giving them up.

  20. PJ….the GB have informed all in section 111 not to sing oo a up the ra since March this year. Cannot be held responsible for those individuals outside 111. We are however a handy scapegoat. Celtic PLC were furious that at the recent 50 minute sit down protest a large amount of fans showed vocal support for the GB and were in a long meeting on the Monday after it. I was told they felt the support had to become divided and if possible put us back in the role of the pantomime bad guys. By accepting this fine it’s already happened as can be seen. I believe there should not be songs sang with the Provisional IRA words in them however I also would rather give them up of our own choice (which we have done) than be lied to and “forced” into giving them up.

  21. Time has passed by for IRA chants. Just now the team needs all focus to be on winning leagues and cups not getting pulled into the “sectarian” stuff (which it ain’t). This gives those otherwise minded to brand Celtic as alike the other mob.
    We can celebrate our heritage in better ways l would think.

  22. Time has passed by for IRA chants. Just now the team needs all focus to be on winning leagues and cups not getting pulled into the “sectarian” stuff (which it ain’t). This gives those otherwise minded to brand Celtic as alike the other mob.
    We can celebrate our heritage in better ways l would think.

  23. Celtic has a huge and varied fanbase from all countries, backgrounds and religions. It prides itself on being an inclusive club and the fans embrace this. However the singing of these songs is dividing the support and ruining the club’s reputation throughout Europe. This isn’t an issue about what is or isn’t illegal or sectarian or political, its about what

  24. Celtic has a huge and varied fanbase from all countries, backgrounds and religions. It prides itself on being an inclusive club and the fans embrace this. However the singing of these songs is dividing the support and ruining the club’s reputation throughout Europe. This isn’t an issue about what is or isn’t illegal or sectarian or political, its about what

  25. Stopping the club getting penalized. We have so many good football songs that everyone can join in with, let’s stick to them.

  26. Stopping the club getting penalized. We have so many good football songs that everyone can join in with, let’s stick to them.

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