Are you the woman Celtic fan who saw this incident

Published on Monday 9th January, 2012 by Celtic Trust

Appeal for a witness to an incident in Kinloch Street after the Aberdeen game 23 October 2011

Witness appeal

 
On 23 October 2011 after the game against Aberdeen there was an incident in Kinloch Street when a disabled Celtic supporter and his son were arrested by mounted police officers for allegedly shouting abuse at the Aberdeen fans while leaving the stadium.  During his arrest the man was being held by the neck by a male officer mounted on a horse.  When he was released to be grabbed by other officers on foot, the officer knocked the man’s glasses off.  The man’s teenage son attempted to help his father and was also arrested.  His younger son (13) was crying and in distress and during that time a female officer screamed in his face and threatened him with arrest.  The child was subsequently abandoned outside the park and a steward had to wait with him till his mother could be contacted to come and collect him.
During the incident a female Celtic supporter asked the mounted officer, who was holding the man, for his number as she appeared to be objecting to the way the man was being treated.  He apparently did not reply to her and left the scene shortly thereafter.  This lady, who was in the 40-60 age group could be a helpful witness as the man and his son have now been charged with breach of the peace.
If you are this lady or you know her (you may have heard her speak about the incident) can you please contact the Celtic Trust via our website or contact Fans Against Criminalisation at fansagainstcriminalisation@gmail.com .
Could all fan websites or blogs please pass on this appeal.

Comments

  1. This is not unusual for Aberdeen police. Years ago I asked a mounted c…t for his badge number
    he threatened me with arrest and threw me further back on the pavement, where I was standing.

  2. This is not unusual for Aberdeen police. Years ago I asked a mounted c…t for his badge number
    he threatened me with arrest and threw me further back on the pavement, where I was standing.

  3. That’s absolutely disgusting. Just one more example of the police victimising Celtic fans. If the man was guilty of shouting abuse then fair enough getting pulled up for it, although whatever constitutes abuse these days is anyones guess.
    Sincerely hope these animals are caught and brought to task. I won’t be holding my breath.

  4. That’s absolutely disgusting. Just one more example of the police victimising Celtic fans. If the man was guilty of shouting abuse then fair enough getting pulled up for it, although whatever constitutes abuse these days is anyones guess.
    Sincerely hope these animals are caught and brought to task. I won’t be holding my breath.

  5. Hey Guys,
    Firstly, Martin. Let me say that, even now, i don’t believe the police are guilty of victimising Celtic fans. I take issue with the tone of your statement, which almost implies the guilt of the police before adding – as an afterthought – that the Celtic fan may be guilty after all.
    I believe that Peter Mooneys comment is more accurate. If i may paraphrase, Mr. Mooney appears to say that the police abuse the power given to them, thinking that they are above the law. I have seen this abuse of power across the country. I would also point out that my girlfriend and her family are season ticket holders at Ibrox and have, on occasion, personally been subjected to the same abuses – in some cases, a nine year old child has been involved.
    The main problem here, certainly in my opinion, is that the police are heavy handed when they are certain there is no recourse for them. Although i am in no way qualified, i would suggest that people know their rights when dealing with the police. If you are being questioned after a game, ask a fellow fan to act as a witness. Be sure to get badge numbers, names and reporting officers.
    This problem, as far as i can tell, is a nationwide pandemic. It is not, as far i can see, aimed at Celtic fans – in fairness, the article doesn’t suggest it is.
    To my fellow Celtic fans, and all others across Scotland, make sure you exercise your RIGHTS when dealing with the police. Don’t let these bullies and (dare i say) facists win!
    Finally, sorry for the rant! Abuse of police power is a subject close to my heart, i hope TCN forgives me 🙂
    Hail, Hail.
    Hoppers

    1. The police victimising Celtic fans is not to say the Celtic fans are the only ones being targetted, i don’t doubt for a second there are fans of clubs all around the country being victims of the same treatment. However i do think that recently, this season namely, the Celtic fans have found themselves in the firing line far more often and with far greater unjustifiable reason. I believe there was a quote from someone working with the police a few weeks ago saying alluding to an anti-Celtic agenda in terms of policing at football games. Make oof that what you will, but i am far from the only person that holds the above opinion.

  6. Hey Guys,
    Firstly, Martin. Let me say that, even now, i don’t believe the police are guilty of victimising Celtic fans. I take issue with the tone of your statement, which almost implies the guilt of the police before adding – as an afterthought – that the Celtic fan may be guilty after all.
    I believe that Peter Mooneys comment is more accurate. If i may paraphrase, Mr. Mooney appears to say that the police abuse the power given to them, thinking that they are above the law. I have seen this abuse of power across the country. I would also point out that my girlfriend and her family are season ticket holders at Ibrox and have, on occasion, personally been subjected to the same abuses – in some cases, a nine year old child has been involved.
    The main problem here, certainly in my opinion, is that the police are heavy handed when they are certain there is no recourse for them. Although i am in no way qualified, i would suggest that people know their rights when dealing with the police. If you are being questioned after a game, ask a fellow fan to act as a witness. Be sure to get badge numbers, names and reporting officers.
    This problem, as far as i can tell, is a nationwide pandemic. It is not, as far i can see, aimed at Celtic fans – in fairness, the article doesn’t suggest it is.
    To my fellow Celtic fans, and all others across Scotland, make sure you exercise your RIGHTS when dealing with the police. Don’t let these bullies and (dare i say) facists win!
    Finally, sorry for the rant! Abuse of police power is a subject close to my heart, i hope TCN forgives me 🙂
    Hail, Hail.
    Hoppers

    1. The police victimising Celtic fans is not to say the Celtic fans are the only ones being targetted, i don’t doubt for a second there are fans of clubs all around the country being victims of the same treatment. However i do think that recently, this season namely, the Celtic fans have found themselves in the firing line far more often and with far greater unjustifiable reason. I believe there was a quote from someone working with the police a few weeks ago saying alluding to an anti-Celtic agenda in terms of policing at football games. Make oof that what you will, but i am far from the only person that holds the above opinion.

  7. Hoppers is absolutely right. The standard of policing has dropped significantly in Britain since the bank bailouts. Dissent is not tolerated. This is not a free country anymore.

  8. Hoppers is absolutely right. The standard of policing has dropped significantly in Britain since the bank bailouts. Dissent is not tolerated. This is not a free country anymore.

  9. you see this more at matches with their snatch squads. be being heavy handed.
    i do agree that this does happen in life, i tried to exercise my basic rights when being stopped by. strathclyde police, asking them for their police id, which was met by a glare. then arrestment. i have encountered many police wrong doings. there is a glimmer of hope as some police do their job with dignity. I wish the police would have pro-active discussions with supporter groups, much like their community police officers do with local communities.

  10. you see this more at matches with their snatch squads. be being heavy handed.
    i do agree that this does happen in life, i tried to exercise my basic rights when being stopped by. strathclyde police, asking them for their police id, which was met by a glare. then arrestment. i have encountered many police wrong doings. there is a glimmer of hope as some police do their job with dignity. I wish the police would have pro-active discussions with supporter groups, much like their community police officers do with local communities.

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