Jeff Winter. It's not the end

Things have went a bit quiet on the Jeff Winter front in the national media which is a bit strange. The UK media were quite happy to destroy Andy Gray and that wee man with hairy hands Richard Keys last year because they appeared to be sexist off air.
Maybe they were bigger targets because they were the front end of Sky Sports at the time, All the same they deserved to go according to the UK media. However taking that into account I find it strange that Mr Winter has not gathered the same amount of revulsion that the former two have.
Could it be that insulting Roman Catholics is not a big deal in PC Britain ? Can you imagine the uproar if Mr Winter had a go at the Jewish,Muslim, Gay, afro Caribbean community ? Of course you can there would be an uproar and quite rightly so.
I must say that I’m totally shocked by the SNP’s response to this after all they seemingly want to kill racism and sectarianism but for some reason they have ignored this. Maybe if Mr Winter had called Scots a shower of subsidy junkies they might have responded.
Unfortunately once again we find the RC community and seemingly by extension anyone who supports Celtic in Scotland under attack from an ignorant bigot and the Scottish Government and politicians turn a blind eye. They simply don’t want to know because they don’t want to answer the question.
It’s a basic question. Are Scotland’s Establishments Institutionally Sectarian ?
Answer: Of course they are or they would stand up against bigots like Winter who would choose to single out a section of Scottish society for abuse.
I’ll make this clear I don’t blame the SNP, Scottish Labour, Lib Dems, or the wee tiny Tories for this. I blame the lot of them.
Winter will have his day and he will be disgraced but it will be with no thanks to Scotland’s media or politicians it will be the Celtic support.
 

Comments

  1. Mate, this is pish.
    Andy Gray and Richard Keys were the 2 prominent figures on the biggest and most viewed channel in the UK. It’s hardly the same as a 2nd rate retired ref that nobody really gives a flying f*ck about. Undoubtedly the guy is an odious, hateful, twisted orc but there is no comparison.
    Also you “must say that I’m totally shocked by the SNP’s response…” No you’re not, you just don’t vote SNP but felt the need to include this in your piece. If anyone thinks for a minute than any other party would have played it differently than the way SNP did then they are only deluding themselves. (I don’t vote SNP by the way)
    “I’ll make this clear I don’t blame the SNP, Scottish Labour, Lib Dems, or the wee tiny Tories for this. I blame the lot of them.” < This is the funniest sentence I've ever read in my life. Read it back to yourself, it's a doozy.
    Cheers,
    Danny Bhoy.

    1. Thanks for your reply. Thank God we have someone like you to tell us what we don’t think or vote for. However We are delighted that we provided you with the funniest sentence you have ever read in your life. Glad to be of service 🙂

  2. Mate, this is pish.
    Andy Gray and Richard Keys were the 2 prominent figures on the biggest and most viewed channel in the UK. It’s hardly the same as a 2nd rate retired ref that nobody really gives a flying f*ck about. Undoubtedly the guy is an odious, hateful, twisted orc but there is no comparison.
    Also you “must say that I’m totally shocked by the SNP’s response…” No you’re not, you just don’t vote SNP but felt the need to include this in your piece. If anyone thinks for a minute than any other party would have played it differently than the way SNP did then they are only deluding themselves. (I don’t vote SNP by the way)
    “I’ll make this clear I don’t blame the SNP, Scottish Labour, Lib Dems, or the wee tiny Tories for this. I blame the lot of them.” < This is the funniest sentence I've ever read in my life. Read it back to yourself, it's a doozy.
    Cheers,
    Danny Bhoy.

    1. Thanks for your reply. Thank God we have someone like you to tell us what we don’t think or vote for. However We are delighted that we provided you with the funniest sentence you have ever read in your life. Glad to be of service 🙂

  3. Well said. The silence from The Hammer Of The Bigots, Wee Eck himself, is deafening considering the high profile crusade he spearheads on the very matter. This is very strange, although not surprising.
    You can bet your last penny that you will be denounced for “playing” the victim which is the only desperate retort a playground bully would use when challenged. For the record I don’t think Alex Salmond and the SNP are infested with bigots; However I do think they are afraid to challenge anti Catholic sectarianism for fear of upsetting the other mob. The recent bill which criminalizes Celtic fans for singing folk songs shows that. Outlawing songs like BOTOB is in itself racist according to the European Court of Human Rights.
    NB also as you mentioned for anti-Catholic also read anti-Celtic, because the animals equate the two as the same thing.

  4. Well said. The silence from The Hammer Of The Bigots, Wee Eck himself, is deafening considering the high profile crusade he spearheads on the very matter. This is very strange, although not surprising.
    You can bet your last penny that you will be denounced for “playing” the victim which is the only desperate retort a playground bully would use when challenged. For the record I don’t think Alex Salmond and the SNP are infested with bigots; However I do think they are afraid to challenge anti Catholic sectarianism for fear of upsetting the other mob. The recent bill which criminalizes Celtic fans for singing folk songs shows that. Outlawing songs like BOTOB is in itself racist according to the European Court of Human Rights.
    NB also as you mentioned for anti-Catholic also read anti-Celtic, because the animals equate the two as the same thing.

  5. Laughable really that Danny can read minds & knows who James votes for. He may have a point in terms of the stature of Keys/Gray compared that to Winter but I’d like to ask himself this-
    Look at last nights fiasco where a somewhat brand new social media account which went specifically to racial abuse Rangers player, look at how this was reported straight away and also by STV going out of they’re way to name this being from a Celtic supporter, compare this cretins stature to Jeff Winter, hardly comparable but I think we saw a big difference in how the media reported (both how quickly & linking this with Celtic supporters) how long was Jeff Winter’s blog available for and how long had he been doing similar attacks, yet some of our biggest media names automatically decried this as “hacked”
    What if I or any other supporter create a user account under the name TeddyBear1690, A Rangers crest is put on the profile and I then go out and specifically abuse players of Celtic oe, Wanyama, Wilson, Bangura, will I be a Rangers supporter like STV made out last nights eejit a Celtic supporter?
    My point in all of this Danny Bhoy? It’s how things are treated and reported by the media & the writer of the original piece I think has a very valid point. Something you would think is better off ignored, well not now, this is a different age and the days of Irish,Catholic or Celtic minded people being different is slowing passing. Time for change.

  6. Laughable really that Danny can read minds & knows who James votes for. He may have a point in terms of the stature of Keys/Gray compared that to Winter but I’d like to ask himself this-
    Look at last nights fiasco where a somewhat brand new social media account which went specifically to racial abuse Rangers player, look at how this was reported straight away and also by STV going out of they’re way to name this being from a Celtic supporter, compare this cretins stature to Jeff Winter, hardly comparable but I think we saw a big difference in how the media reported (both how quickly & linking this with Celtic supporters) how long was Jeff Winter’s blog available for and how long had he been doing similar attacks, yet some of our biggest media names automatically decried this as “hacked”
    What if I or any other supporter create a user account under the name TeddyBear1690, A Rangers crest is put on the profile and I then go out and specifically abuse players of Celtic oe, Wanyama, Wilson, Bangura, will I be a Rangers supporter like STV made out last nights eejit a Celtic supporter?
    My point in all of this Danny Bhoy? It’s how things are treated and reported by the media & the writer of the original piece I think has a very valid point. Something you would think is better off ignored, well not now, this is a different age and the days of Irish,Catholic or Celtic minded people being different is slowing passing. Time for change.

  7. James I’ve been saying the same thing for 20 years. At university I recall getting into a heated argument with a group of anti-Nazi league protesters who wanted funds to travel down to England to protest against a BNP march. Although against the BNP I refused to give them anything on the basis that their organization ignored the dozens of Orange marches in Glasgow city centre. It’s entirely correct to be an anti racist but sadly its also fashionable. I question some peoples motives as to exactly why they claim to be anti racists. If everyone who denounced racism truly despised prejudice and bigotry then OO marches would be treated like BNP marches and guys like Winter would not dare post comments on his blog with impunity.

  8. James I’ve been saying the same thing for 20 years. At university I recall getting into a heated argument with a group of anti-Nazi league protesters who wanted funds to travel down to England to protest against a BNP march. Although against the BNP I refused to give them anything on the basis that their organization ignored the dozens of Orange marches in Glasgow city centre. It’s entirely correct to be an anti racist but sadly its also fashionable. I question some peoples motives as to exactly why they claim to be anti racists. If everyone who denounced racism truly despised prejudice and bigotry then OO marches would be treated like BNP marches and guys like Winter would not dare post comments on his blog with impunity.

  9. i have a few valid points on this issue. for one if jeff winters knew his account was hacked, why was it not closed down by the man himself straight away and an apology being issued for his account being hacked.
    why did he not go to the police and inform them of the secterian bile being posted in his name in fear of losing his job or police action. so the real culprit could be caught.
    why would any hacker target his account, when there are bigger fish to target, hes a no-one.
    why is it just accepted by media and politicians that his account was hacked, like anyone caught with their trousers down, say it wasn’t you and people will believe you. YEAH RIGHT.
    now if it was me, i would have acted straight away.
    but then maybe, just maybe he was the real culprit and thought he would get away with it. So my question is if im asking this, why hasn’t the people with power, media, politicians and police asked them.

  10. i have a few valid points on this issue. for one if jeff winters knew his account was hacked, why was it not closed down by the man himself straight away and an apology being issued for his account being hacked.
    why did he not go to the police and inform them of the secterian bile being posted in his name in fear of losing his job or police action. so the real culprit could be caught.
    why would any hacker target his account, when there are bigger fish to target, hes a no-one.
    why is it just accepted by media and politicians that his account was hacked, like anyone caught with their trousers down, say it wasn’t you and people will believe you. YEAH RIGHT.
    now if it was me, i would have acted straight away.
    but then maybe, just maybe he was the real culprit and thought he would get away with it. So my question is if im asking this, why hasn’t the people with power, media, politicians and police asked them.

  11. James if Winter was an ex Ref living in Scotland and had written that then I would expect the SNP to come out and say something but the reality is he lives in England and the piece he typed was I think done in New Zealand. No crime was committed in Scotland as far as I can make out. The article might have been about a section of the Scottish population and I agree if he had made a comment about “Scottish Scroungers” or similar then it might have provoked a response from the SNP.
    I think the most we can hope for is that he is now finished as a media representative for Sky and Talksport and that consequently he’ll be limited to making a living entertaining the bigots in Scotland and Northern Ireland after they’ve eaten their dinner.

  12. James if Winter was an ex Ref living in Scotland and had written that then I would expect the SNP to come out and say something but the reality is he lives in England and the piece he typed was I think done in New Zealand. No crime was committed in Scotland as far as I can make out. The article might have been about a section of the Scottish population and I agree if he had made a comment about “Scottish Scroungers” or similar then it might have provoked a response from the SNP.
    I think the most we can hope for is that he is now finished as a media representative for Sky and Talksport and that consequently he’ll be limited to making a living entertaining the bigots in Scotland and Northern Ireland after they’ve eaten their dinner.

  13. The silence regarding Winter is deafening.
    I and I don’t suppose anyone else of a like minded persuasion would argue the fact or be shocked that the ‘hun players in racist tweets’ headlines popped up just to deflect the attention a touch, which it has. None of this comes as a shock to any of us and the ever fading Scottish ‘sports’ journalist in this country are being shown up time after time for what they are, or what they are meant to be, my twelve year old can copy and paste! Speirs for instance of late I have actually admired for sticking his head out just a touch above the sand and seeing with clear non tinted vision, after yesterday and him jumping right on the ‘racist abuse Celtic tweets’ just in my opinion seen him slip back under with the rest of the spoon fed fools, upon being given the ‘Winter’ evidence first hand midweek he still dismissed it as a probable ‘hack’ on the account, five minutes of looking back through Winters’ blogs and tweets would have set the story straight, it’s not really hard it is called investigative journalism, something that paid hacks in this country seem to be incapable of with the whole RFC tax case being the perfect example.
    The underlying problem here is that even after the outright racist hate filled extreme views spouted by Winters and the fans of Cowdenbeath FC last Saturday towards Hibs manager Pat Fenlon anti Irish and Catholic hatred is still viewed upon here with kid gloves then wrapped up and somehow dismissed as something else, usually banter or the victim having to have thick skin to operate in this country or the like, all in all the press and political powers at be here brush this aside time and time again refusing to act. All this isn’t new news to us but in this ever expanding news on demand online world in which we operate the gradual decline of those who turn a blind eye will increase and hopefully one day we might have impartial views and justice from those in this country who have a voice and the tools to make a difference.
    HAIL HAIL
    https://twitter.com/#!/GlasgowRoad

  14. The silence regarding Winter is deafening.
    I and I don’t suppose anyone else of a like minded persuasion would argue the fact or be shocked that the ‘hun players in racist tweets’ headlines popped up just to deflect the attention a touch, which it has. None of this comes as a shock to any of us and the ever fading Scottish ‘sports’ journalist in this country are being shown up time after time for what they are, or what they are meant to be, my twelve year old can copy and paste! Speirs for instance of late I have actually admired for sticking his head out just a touch above the sand and seeing with clear non tinted vision, after yesterday and him jumping right on the ‘racist abuse Celtic tweets’ just in my opinion seen him slip back under with the rest of the spoon fed fools, upon being given the ‘Winter’ evidence first hand midweek he still dismissed it as a probable ‘hack’ on the account, five minutes of looking back through Winters’ blogs and tweets would have set the story straight, it’s not really hard it is called investigative journalism, something that paid hacks in this country seem to be incapable of with the whole RFC tax case being the perfect example.
    The underlying problem here is that even after the outright racist hate filled extreme views spouted by Winters and the fans of Cowdenbeath FC last Saturday towards Hibs manager Pat Fenlon anti Irish and Catholic hatred is still viewed upon here with kid gloves then wrapped up and somehow dismissed as something else, usually banter or the victim having to have thick skin to operate in this country or the like, all in all the press and political powers at be here brush this aside time and time again refusing to act. All this isn’t new news to us but in this ever expanding news on demand online world in which we operate the gradual decline of those who turn a blind eye will increase and hopefully one day we might have impartial views and justice from those in this country who have a voice and the tools to make a difference.
    HAIL HAIL
    https://twitter.com/#!/GlasgowRoad

  15. danny jus wanted to say maybe any other party wouldn’t have dealt with the matter differently but the responsibility isn’t on any other party, it’s the snp in charge and wee eck is determined to stamp out this scourge! yet no action is taken, now if any person with any level of media profile had a website and posted something along the lines of ‘ Scotland is full of proddy junkies’ do u think there would have been an outcry from wee eck et al??

  16. danny jus wanted to say maybe any other party wouldn’t have dealt with the matter differently but the responsibility isn’t on any other party, it’s the snp in charge and wee eck is determined to stamp out this scourge! yet no action is taken, now if any person with any level of media profile had a website and posted something along the lines of ‘ Scotland is full of proddy junkies’ do u think there would have been an outcry from wee eck et al??

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