Its time for the Celtic FC board to get their priorities right.

The recent pronouncement that the Green Brigade intend to boycott the next two home matches has generated quite a lot of debate among us all.
The vast majority of blogs, tweets and postings have been in support of the GB.
Obviously those who have questioned the wisdom of their actions have done so because they believe that it will hurt the club not just financially but also in reputation terms. Theirs is a solid argument and I have sympathy for it.

However the purpose of this blog is not to fuel the GB debate but to question the moral fortitude of the current Celtic board and try to make sense of their ongoing stance not just on the Green Brigade but also to the greater Celtic support.

My contention is that we have a board that has over the last few years shown themselves to be, quite frankly, spineless when it has come to standing up for its fans in the face of considerable provocation from the media, police and football authorities. Let’s not kid ourselves Celtic is financially getting away from the man in the street as it marches to the tune of corporate greed and directorial self-preservation. It staggers me how football clubs play foot loose and fancy free with their fans loyalties when the good days are upon them. Ask Newcastle, Leeds, Liverpool fans about that one, or going further back Aberdeen and Dundee United supporters and lest we forget our own Kelly days.

What a wonderful jolly hockey sticks AGM we have just had with lots of smiles, back slapping and directors being reappointed unopposed. Even the absentee landlord and our biggest shareholder Dermot Desmond gets a shoe in – again.
Peter Lawwell confidently telling us all the good times are here and he can see us growing stronger over the next few years. Oh happy days.

Err…by the way just how is that going to happen Peter? Would it be because we ‘should’ have an unopposed punt at the CL over the next few years? Or is it because we will be seeing even greater sponsorship income as a result of our resurgence in Europe or will it be that old Europa League chestnut again?
Well whatever it may be I can assure you none of this will come to pass without the continued support of the fans. Yes the very fans that you have stoically refused to accept are the best and most patient in Britain.
Why do you not support them? I’ll tell you why. Because you are running scared from the media. You read the papers before you read our blogs. Recently you were so embarrassed when that same media started a witch-hunt over a banner that was preposterously deemed to be unlawful, you lacked the morale fibre to speak out strongly in support of those fans even after the whole issue was quite rightly dismissed.

Are you and the board so out of touch that you are failing to see what is happening out there? Do you really know what is going down? I think you do but you have such contempt for the fans in general you keep your counsel and continue to pander to a corrupt system that bullies you and the board. Or do you have to wait until Dermot’s next phone call before developing a policy?

Wake up and smell the coffee Peter we, the Celtic supporters, hold all the cards here. If we collectively decided to stop supporting the team because we have become so disenfranchised with your corporate behaviour your backside will be in a tinnie.

It’s your fiduciary duty Celtic board to take cognisance of your second biggest [some may say the biggest] asset, your season tickets holders and supporters – the paying public. As far as I am concerned you are palpably failing us. We are fed up standing up for ourselves and not being able to rely on your support.

The time to get this right is now when the ‘good times’ are here not when we lurch into another self inflicted crisis.

Lastly what are the chances of the Mr Lawwell responding?

Slim and none.

HH

40 thoughts on “Its time for the Celtic FC board to get their priorities right.

  1. Good read, and I think the board are playing a strange game here. The fans ARE the club and without them, Celtic are nothing. I don’t know the full in’s and out’s of this protest thing, but I would have thought the board would have made a statement or backed the fans. Just my opinions. That aside, do the board have a good feel for its paying fans?

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    1. Thank you for your comments Blogger and the short answer is…the board do not have a good feel for its paying fans.

  2. Good read, and I think the board are playing a strange game here. The fans ARE the club and without them, Celtic are nothing. I don’t know the full in’s and out’s of this protest thing, but I would have thought the board would have made a statement or backed the fans. Just my opinions. That aside, do the board have a good feel for its paying fans?

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    1. Thank you for your comments Blogger and the short answer is…the board do not have a good feel for its paying fans.

  3. I think it has to be said first and foremost that we should feel very lucky to have lawwell as the job he has done to oversee the youth policy and scouting programme the club are currently on is nothing short of miraculous considering the league we are in. That said I think he is between a rock and a hard place regarding backing certain things the gb have done. I think distancing himself from some of the stuff they do is shrewd as to back certain things could put the club into the media spotlight for unwanted reasons. The gb are amazing, but sometimes more thought should be put into some things they do as can sometimes bring unwanted attention.

    1. Thankyou Ourivalry
      My blog wasnt intended to support or justify the GB’s actions…it was simpy to state that I believe the board have been remiss at not stepping up to the plate when it comes to the attacks the club and its supporters suffer on a regular basis.
      I want us to build on the good work collectively not selectively.

      1. I can see where you are coming from, we do need to pull in the same direction and ride the crest of this wave together as I believe something good is happening at the club at the moment

  4. I think it has to be said first and foremost that we should feel very lucky to have lawwell as the job he has done to oversee the youth policy and scouting programme the club are currently on is nothing short of miraculous considering the league we are in. That said I think he is between a rock and a hard place regarding backing certain things the gb have done. I think distancing himself from some of the stuff they do is shrewd as to back certain things could put the club into the media spotlight for unwanted reasons. The gb are amazing, but sometimes more thought should be put into some things they do as can sometimes bring unwanted attention.

    1. Thankyou Ourivalry
      My blog wasnt intended to support or justify the GB’s actions…it was simpy to state that I believe the board have been remiss at not stepping up to the plate when it comes to the attacks the club and its supporters suffer on a regular basis.
      I want us to build on the good work collectively not selectively.

      1. I can see where you are coming from, we do need to pull in the same direction and ride the crest of this wave together as I believe something good is happening at the club at the moment

  5. We need to submit to the board an organised and formal signed petition that clearly states our grievances. The board needs to be aware of the level of support and depth of feeling we have on this issue. The fact that this police bullying and victimisation is occurring is bad enough (although not entirely surprising) but the inactivity and lack of public support by the board is far more problematic and far more dangerous for all fans, and ultimately, the club.

  6. We need to submit to the board an organised and formal signed petition that clearly states our grievances. The board needs to be aware of the level of support and depth of feeling we have on this issue. The fact that this police bullying and victimisation is occurring is bad enough (although not entirely surprising) but the inactivity and lack of public support by the board is far more problematic and far more dangerous for all fans, and ultimately, the club.

  7. The fans are being short changed by the board & the hypocrisy is nothing short of disgraceful from them who openly use green brigade material such as glasgows green & white & just can’t get enough on official merchandise yet secretly hand over names & address to the police of green brigade members, as a non green brigade member who sits in block 111 with my two sons & numerous friends we have decided unless there is vast improvement regarding numerous searches at every game whether coming into the ground or going to the bookie or the toilets or shop then we will not be renewing next season & I have held a season ticket for over thirty years, sort this out Peter & stop being such a hypocrite, at this moment in time I cannot believe the way you are treating the fans of 111 & surrounding area !

    1. Strong words and something we should all take heed…the world has changed…we dont have a hard core of militants hooligan supporters that the establishment would have everyone believe. Our fans must be treated with consideration and respect.

      1. So does this take into account that your belief that the club has the fans best interests at heart? Just asking Mc. #HH

        1. What I believe is happening here Blogger is a slipping back to the old days where the board became detatched from the fans. As I have said the world has changed. Their customers [the fans] have a better understanding of their position in the food chain and we are not at the bottom. We are at the top because without the fans quite simply this club could not survive. I repeat the Celtic board need to regognise ALL their loyal fans, engage respectfully and be as supportive as we are of Celtic.

  8. The fans are being short changed by the board & the hypocrisy is nothing short of disgraceful from them who openly use green brigade material such as glasgows green & white & just can’t get enough on official merchandise yet secretly hand over names & address to the police of green brigade members, as a non green brigade member who sits in block 111 with my two sons & numerous friends we have decided unless there is vast improvement regarding numerous searches at every game whether coming into the ground or going to the bookie or the toilets or shop then we will not be renewing next season & I have held a season ticket for over thirty years, sort this out Peter & stop being such a hypocrite, at this moment in time I cannot believe the way you are treating the fans of 111 & surrounding area !

    1. Strong words and something we should all take heed…the world has changed…we dont have a hard core of militants hooligan supporters that the establishment would have everyone believe. Our fans must be treated with consideration and respect.

      1. So does this take into account that your belief that the club has the fans best interests at heart? Just asking Mc. #HH

        1. What I believe is happening here Blogger is a slipping back to the old days where the board became detatched from the fans. As I have said the world has changed. Their customers [the fans] have a better understanding of their position in the food chain and we are not at the bottom. We are at the top because without the fans quite simply this club could not survive. I repeat the Celtic board need to regognise ALL their loyal fans, engage respectfully and be as supportive as we are of Celtic.

  9. You can’t help but get the feeling that sometimes fan loyalty it taken for granted.

    The corporate side of the club know that circa 15000 will turn up for every game even it’s a cold night against Raith Rovers (No offense Raith – “one Turnbull Hutton”). While prices may be reduced slightly, would it not make more sense to implement initiatives to try and fill, at least, half the ground?

    No. Not to the number crunchers who would apparently rather the ground was a ghost town if it meant squeezing another extra few thousand pounds out of us “Customers”.

    Don’t get me wrong, personally, I like a lot (not all) of what Lawwell does and the direction the club is heading. We have a scouting network that must be the envy of the majority of teams in Britain and it’s no coincidence that Lawwell is periodically linked with Premiership clubs like Arsenal but my worry is, as touched on in this blog, that the Celtic support are, despite occasional lip service, treated as customers before they are fans.

    I for one support the GB, and I think the it’s high time the Board started realising just what an asset they and the wider support are to the club.

    They should also remember this….

    If the wider support feel that the GB are not getting the backing from the club that they deserve, it is possible that they may follow suit.

  10. You can’t help but get the feeling that sometimes fan loyalty it taken for granted.

    The corporate side of the club know that circa 15000 will turn up for every game even it’s a cold night against Raith Rovers (No offense Raith – “one Turnbull Hutton”). While prices may be reduced slightly, would it not make more sense to implement initiatives to try and fill, at least, half the ground?

    No. Not to the number crunchers who would apparently rather the ground was a ghost town if it meant squeezing another extra few thousand pounds out of us “Customers”.

    Don’t get me wrong, personally, I like a lot (not all) of what Lawwell does and the direction the club is heading. We have a scouting network that must be the envy of the majority of teams in Britain and it’s no coincidence that Lawwell is periodically linked with Premiership clubs like Arsenal but my worry is, as touched on in this blog, that the Celtic support are, despite occasional lip service, treated as customers before they are fans.

    I for one support the GB, and I think the it’s high time the Board started realising just what an asset they and the wider support are to the club.

    They should also remember this….

    If the wider support feel that the GB are not getting the backing from the club that they deserve, it is possible that they may follow suit.

  11. I think the Board are providing a great service. Even if Sevco had been in the SPL now then Celtic would probably still have been in a pretty stable financial situation. Other than their very significant contribution to the atmosphere at Celtic Park I don’t think that the majority of Celtic fans would support the Board making concessions to or representations for the GB. Some of the problems are of their own making.

    1. I agree with your comments that some of the GB’s execution of their displays could be in better taste….however you cannot doubt that they have created a welcome atmosphere at games when the whole stadium has been flat.

  12. I think the Board are providing a great service. Even if Sevco had been in the SPL now then Celtic would probably still have been in a pretty stable financial situation. Other than their very significant contribution to the atmosphere at Celtic Park I don’t think that the majority of Celtic fans would support the Board making concessions to or representations for the GB. Some of the problems are of their own making.

    1. I agree with your comments that some of the GB’s execution of their displays could be in better taste….however you cannot doubt that they have created a welcome atmosphere at games when the whole stadium has been flat.

  13. Has there been any dialogue between the Police and the Green Brigade concerning what exactly the Police want?
    I don’t know if there is any contact between the various groups of fans’ of other clubs to ascertain if they are experiencing this sort of treatment.
    Perhaps there should be a freedom of information question asking how much Strathclyde police are spending on following the Green Brigade all over Scotland during time of national austerity.
    MP’s should also be contacted particularly the on that covers Celtic Park. For tht many citizens to be searched continually with no charges being brought is quite alarming. The same goes for the amount of cases being found not guilty/not proven.
    From the outside looking in it looks as if they are trying to provoke a reaction. Don’t do it guys you won’t win but get the backup info mentioned above and go to the MP’s and club to highlight the issue.

  14. Has there been any dialogue between the Police and the Green Brigade concerning what exactly the Police want?
    I don’t know if there is any contact between the various groups of fans’ of other clubs to ascertain if they are experiencing this sort of treatment.
    Perhaps there should be a freedom of information question asking how much Strathclyde police are spending on following the Green Brigade all over Scotland during time of national austerity.
    MP’s should also be contacted particularly the on that covers Celtic Park. For tht many citizens to be searched continually with no charges being brought is quite alarming. The same goes for the amount of cases being found not guilty/not proven.
    From the outside looking in it looks as if they are trying to provoke a reaction. Don’t do it guys you won’t win but get the backup info mentioned above and go to the MP’s and club to highlight the issue.

  15. McAllister

    I beg your forgiveness, but I have decided to put my response on hold till tomorrow. I find myself in the horns of a dilemma that has my mind vacillating from sympathy for the board to condemnation of their inertness. I hear very loudly the anger in your blog being echoed in the many responses to your contention as well as in many other views being expressed elsewhere on the net. I am strongly swayed by your claim that the Celtic board are being “selective”, a most apt term, perhaps. However, I am also conscious of the progress the club has made since the dark days of the 90s and am trying to justify in my mind, while under pressure from my heart, the behaviour that has them “running scared from the media” as you put it. I want you and the others to be so wrong that I am prepared to give your statements extended consideration. On the other hand, I dread so much you may right that it is truly painful when I consider coming to terms with it. I hope I can return tomorrow with a calmer and more balanced opinion and with a clearer overview of the issues at hand. In many ways this goes far deeper than a single group of supporters and a board of directors. It may even touch the heart of our existence as a uniquely special football club and supremely enviable family of supporters. It challenges everyone’s desire to continue to follow our club, especially if it has either discarded its duty towards or, worse, hypocritically only pays lip-service to, its fans. Any response must be based on actual proven facts as far as they are available and reliable and not on suppositions or emotions. I hope I have these at my disposal when I reply tomorrow.

    Meantime, thank you for raising awareness of the topic and the definite need for it to be addressed.

    H H

    1. Pensionerbhoy
      Thank you.
      As always I will value your feedback and respect your opinions as I do everyone who posts here. We all have one thing at heart…the continuing success and happiness of our football club. I believe we have a real chance to come together and unite with the board if they are prepared to open the doors to us and discuss what perplexes us ocassionally.
      HH

  16. McAllister

    I beg your forgiveness, but I have decided to put my response on hold till tomorrow. I find myself in the horns of a dilemma that has my mind vacillating from sympathy for the board to condemnation of their inertness. I hear very loudly the anger in your blog being echoed in the many responses to your contention as well as in many other views being expressed elsewhere on the net. I am strongly swayed by your claim that the Celtic board are being “selective”, a most apt term, perhaps. However, I am also conscious of the progress the club has made since the dark days of the 90s and am trying to justify in my mind, while under pressure from my heart, the behaviour that has them “running scared from the media” as you put it. I want you and the others to be so wrong that I am prepared to give your statements extended consideration. On the other hand, I dread so much you may right that it is truly painful when I consider coming to terms with it. I hope I can return tomorrow with a calmer and more balanced opinion and with a clearer overview of the issues at hand. In many ways this goes far deeper than a single group of supporters and a board of directors. It may even touch the heart of our existence as a uniquely special football club and supremely enviable family of supporters. It challenges everyone’s desire to continue to follow our club, especially if it has either discarded its duty towards or, worse, hypocritically only pays lip-service to, its fans. Any response must be based on actual proven facts as far as they are available and reliable and not on suppositions or emotions. I hope I have these at my disposal when I reply tomorrow.

    Meantime, thank you for raising awareness of the topic and the definite need for it to be addressed.

    H H

    1. Pensionerbhoy
      Thank you.
      As always I will value your feedback and respect your opinions as I do everyone who posts here. We all have one thing at heart…the continuing success and happiness of our football club. I believe we have a real chance to come together and unite with the board if they are prepared to open the doors to us and discuss what perplexes us ocassionally.
      HH

  17. The contempt that Peter Doshwell has for the Celtic supporters seems to grow by the month. Lets face it Peter is only interested in two things, CASH and POWER. He knows that his days are numbered so he will take as much cash out of the club on bonuses etc until he finally has to step down.
    What you have to ask yourself is “why is he doing this”, “why would he treat the Celtic support this way”. In my opinion its purely self preservation. Peter is looking ahead to his next position and does not want to jeopardise this by doing the right thing by the Celtic supporters. Its nothing that we haven’t experienced before with x Celtic players securing their positions with the media so we shouldn’t really be surprised.
    Peter will leave Celtic and take a position within the SFA in order to guarantee he maintains some of his contacts and still gets free european travel when he wants it.
    In an ideal world he is being very clever about this as he wants to ensure that Celtic get a fair representation in Scottish football whether that be with SFA chairman/board members, referees, press etc. Unfortunately this is not an ideal world, Peter is not that clever and even he would not have enough influence to get Celtic an unbiased deal from our footballing authorities.
    I know its hard for Celtic supporters not to turn up and support their team but you have to back the GB on this one. We have demonstrated in the past that we can achieve great things together, but we have to be together.

  18. The contempt that Peter Doshwell has for the Celtic supporters seems to grow by the month. Lets face it Peter is only interested in two things, CASH and POWER. He knows that his days are numbered so he will take as much cash out of the club on bonuses etc until he finally has to step down.
    What you have to ask yourself is “why is he doing this”, “why would he treat the Celtic support this way”. In my opinion its purely self preservation. Peter is looking ahead to his next position and does not want to jeopardise this by doing the right thing by the Celtic supporters. Its nothing that we haven’t experienced before with x Celtic players securing their positions with the media so we shouldn’t really be surprised.
    Peter will leave Celtic and take a position within the SFA in order to guarantee he maintains some of his contacts and still gets free european travel when he wants it.
    In an ideal world he is being very clever about this as he wants to ensure that Celtic get a fair representation in Scottish football whether that be with SFA chairman/board members, referees, press etc. Unfortunately this is not an ideal world, Peter is not that clever and even he would not have enough influence to get Celtic an unbiased deal from our footballing authorities.
    I know its hard for Celtic supporters not to turn up and support their team but you have to back the GB on this one. We have demonstrated in the past that we can achieve great things together, but we have to be together.

  19. I’ll be boycotting the next two home games with them and if the green brigade want to do the last champions league game I’ll be there

  20. I’ll be boycotting the next two home games with them and if the green brigade want to do the last champions league game I’ll be there

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