Quarreling Celts at it again…By A.Contributor

Brendan Behan, the late Irish poet, author and patriot used to say
that whenever the Dublin IRA meet the first item on the agenda is
‘the split.’ His jest was not without foundation as the Irish can
be prone to the odd fallout now and then. Similarly, the Celtic family
seem to be prone to disagreement and discord on occasion. Sometimes,
as in the early 1990s, the fans took matters into their own hands and
ousted the old board who had so mismanaged our club. More recently,
events at Dundee on Boxing day were reported in the press in an
exaggerated manner as we all expected but when one or two Celtic
leaning columnists and bloggers decided to castigate the wrongdoers
they were met by a barrage of criticism.
John Hartson talked of
‘Naming, shaming and banning’ the yobs and went further, much
further, by suggesting they lose their jobs too! That was outrageous
from a player we all admired and a man we welcomed into the Celtic
family. Phil Mac Ghoilla Bhain warned that the great reputation the
Celtic fans have is in danger from an unruly minority. Angela Haggarty
spoke of the need to accept that there is a problem with a minority of
fans. Cyberspace was alive with debate, some of it sadly of a very low
level. Some took exception to the comments made by these three. The
common phrase used was ‘You weren’t at Dundee so how can you judge
what happened?’ Hartson in particular came in for a torrent of
abuse. This may be partly down to his connection with the Sun
‘newspaper’ so reviled by many in football after Hillsborough and
the lies they printed. However, it is obvious that big John based his
column on news reports and had no first-hand information on what
occurred.
He also blocked people who questioned him in polite terms
about his first-hand knowledge of the events in Dundee. Phil and
Angela talked in more general terms about the need to preserve the
Celtic support’s great reputation but still the flak flew! One chap
tweeted that Phil was a ‘Gobshite, who ‘couldn’t find Celtic
Park with a Satnav.’ While another described Angela as Phil’s
‘lapdog.’ Heaven only knows what arrived in their DM boxes! I’m
all for debate and strong language is a part of that. I do draw the
line at foul mouthed abuse and we did see a small minority engage in
that. Whether you agree or disagree with anyone who waxes lyrical
about Celtic is it asking too much for civil behaviour and a degree of
respect towards fellow Celts be forthcoming? Personally speaking, I
wasn’t at Dundee but even on the TV the atmosphere fair crackled. We
had fireworks, non-stop singing and a fairly exciting game. Four
arrests hardly constitutes disorder on a massive scale but it’s
still four too many.
We all share a common passion for our club and
each and every one of us has a right to comment if they feel anyone is
letting the club down or damaging its reputation. Debate is healthy
and disagreements certain but above all remember that we are all
Celtic supporters and have enough detractors without turning on our
own. So let’s face up to any challenges about fan behavior in the
future with honesty and try to encourage all our fans to do things the
Celtic way. We are the best supporters around and those who hate
everything we stand for would love nothing more than to cause
dissention and bad feeling among us. Don’t let them.
Contributor

Comments

  1. well said, if there is a problem within our great support it is right to address it. To steal a former clubs motto we’re simply the best, so lets keep it that way and show respect to all fellow celts. Diversity is one of our strengths.

  2. well said, if there is a problem within our great support it is right to address it. To steal a former clubs motto we’re simply the best, so lets keep it that way and show respect to all fellow celts. Diversity is one of our strengths.

  3. Not the biggest fan of Social Media, but opinions are allowed and even if I don’t agree with an opinion, I respect it. #CelticFamily exists somewhere. Sadly division is rife. One quick look on any platform, and you see more than debate, more than disagreement, you see hatred and intolerance towards fellow Celtic fans. This will only change when freedom of expression is allowed within the Celtic Family. Be them right or wrong, we MUST allow them to be heard and debate them. One lad I know and respect does a Radio show, he isn’t popular from what I hear, but at least respect the man for doing his thing. What The Celtic media like Network @CelticFamily67 Hail Hail Media and others do is bring us all together, or try. I for one would love to see a day where we all at least respected each other. The hatred I see some give to others is awful. The blogger Phil, who done a book was hated after he did some blog or spoke to the media, whatever. At that point as a unit. we should have stood toe to toe with the man. Sadly some went and jumped on whatever bandwagon was rolling that day and gave the lad a hard time. So there are two examples of people within the Celtic Family I like being hated for having an opinion.
    Great blog here and one I hope others read and put into practice, as we all want the same thing. We must allow opinions to be valued. I don’t know where it comes from, but the spirit spoken by JasCam above has to be brought back. Great article
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  4. Not the biggest fan of Social Media, but opinions are allowed and even if I don’t agree with an opinion, I respect it. #CelticFamily exists somewhere. Sadly division is rife. One quick look on any platform, and you see more than debate, more than disagreement, you see hatred and intolerance towards fellow Celtic fans. This will only change when freedom of expression is allowed within the Celtic Family. Be them right or wrong, we MUST allow them to be heard and debate them. One lad I know and respect does a Radio show, he isn’t popular from what I hear, but at least respect the man for doing his thing. What The Celtic media like Network @CelticFamily67 Hail Hail Media and others do is bring us all together, or try. I for one would love to see a day where we all at least respected each other. The hatred I see some give to others is awful. The blogger Phil, who done a book was hated after he did some blog or spoke to the media, whatever. At that point as a unit. we should have stood toe to toe with the man. Sadly some went and jumped on whatever bandwagon was rolling that day and gave the lad a hard time. So there are two examples of people within the Celtic Family I like being hated for having an opinion.
    Great blog here and one I hope others read and put into practice, as we all want the same thing. We must allow opinions to be valued. I don’t know where it comes from, but the spirit spoken by JasCam above has to be brought back. Great article
    Blogger

  5. The best response to this issue I have read to date, JasCam. Many of us fledgling bloggers could do well to take head of your wise counsel.
    I am no apologist in the matter of fan behaviour but I am no advocate either. I have often said before, the condemnation of bad behaviour from any individual should be focussed on the damage that it does to a well earned and much attacked reputation. However, a balanced view of events is crucial and numbers must surely be relative. I well understand the over-exuberance that can send anyone skew-whiff at an emotive event and excessive drinking probably does not help. I am still not too old to remember my own, shall we say exaggerated actions, at tense football matches, and that was at schools’ matches :). It must be remembered, however, that we Celtic supporters are in a unique situation in that will never receive an impartial crack of the whip from any quarter, media or society, unless our behaviour is absolutely impeccable, immaculate, without stain. Allowance is not on the agenda, I am afraid, for our opponents wish nothing more than to dislodge us from our place of honour. So, while we battle against such injustices, we must also not be afraid to publicly censure those who weaken our position.
    H H

    1. 2nd line should read “heed”. I have no idea what was in my “head” at the time. 🙂
      H H

    2. Well said. And I am well aware that Rangers fans have came into the Celtic Family to cause division. Could this be a reason? Could it be at all? Are we so blind to not see it? I have no proof, but the actions of some are actions of what I would expect from someone from the other side. Just a thought.
      Blogger.

  6. The best response to this issue I have read to date, JasCam. Many of us fledgling bloggers could do well to take head of your wise counsel.
    I am no apologist in the matter of fan behaviour but I am no advocate either. I have often said before, the condemnation of bad behaviour from any individual should be focussed on the damage that it does to a well earned and much attacked reputation. However, a balanced view of events is crucial and numbers must surely be relative. I well understand the over-exuberance that can send anyone skew-whiff at an emotive event and excessive drinking probably does not help. I am still not too old to remember my own, shall we say exaggerated actions, at tense football matches, and that was at schools’ matches :). It must be remembered, however, that we Celtic supporters are in a unique situation in that will never receive an impartial crack of the whip from any quarter, media or society, unless our behaviour is absolutely impeccable, immaculate, without stain. Allowance is not on the agenda, I am afraid, for our opponents wish nothing more than to dislodge us from our place of honour. So, while we battle against such injustices, we must also not be afraid to publicly censure those who weaken our position.
    H H

    1. 2nd line should read “heed”. I have no idea what was in my “head” at the time. 🙂
      H H

    2. Well said. And I am well aware that Rangers fans have came into the Celtic Family to cause division. Could this be a reason? Could it be at all? Are we so blind to not see it? I have no proof, but the actions of some are actions of what I would expect from someone from the other side. Just a thought.
      Blogger.

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