Poll – Is The League Cup Still Important ?

Is The League Cup Still Important ?

Let me start by saying that last night’s result is simply unacceptable. However these things happen. As unacceptable as last nights result and overall performance may have been ,I’ll leave those arguments to others. Today I want to focus on the competition it self and try to establish if my fellow supporters feel this tournament is still relevant and does it still demanded that we play first team players?

It’s been a good few years now since winning or getting to the final of this competition guaranteed you entry to European football. In years gone by you could have a bad season but securing the League cup at least got you a place in Europe. It’s my opinion that the competition was severely devalued once it lost it’s ability to offer a European place.

I would suggest given the fall in Celtic fans attending these games that most have lost interest in this competition until the semi final stage. Last night just over 14,000 fans turned up in total. When I was attending the Next Gen games where our youngsters were competing the crowds averaged around 9,000. Therefore I would also suggest that to breath life into this competition for Celtic fans we should field a predominantly youthful side, with a couple of experienced players to guide them.

I feel it’s time for Celtic to make an adjustment to our priorities. If our aim is to be a Champions League side on a shoestring then we should protect our first team players against picking up injuries in the League cup. This would also allow us to give the players a rest and more time to recover from niggling injuries.

As I said last night’s result was unacceptable in any competition but I think we have to decide if it’s still worth playing first team players in this competition.

So what do you think ? Here is a few polls.

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16 thoughts on “Poll – Is The League Cup Still Important ?

  1. If Celtic are competing in a competition, then it’s important.

    We should play every match to win and treat every game with the same determination and respect.
    If we enter a competition and don’t treat it with the same respect, we are cheating the game and cheating the fans who pay money to go and see it.

    If Celtic don’t care about this trophy – then at least be honest about it and allow fans to make an informed decision before paying money to go and watch it.

    Or better still if Celtic don’t care about the trophy – don’t enter into the competition in the first place.

  2. Opinion :

    Value success in everything entered into.

    Celtic should play competitively in every competition & always play to win. ( Cough..Ramsdens aside).

    Youth should always be first choice in such competitions outside the usual targets of league and Europe with more seasoned players only included when needing match fitness after injury or suspension etc.

    However it has to be said that some Celtic supporters have to understand we are not guaranteed victory or success in any and accept defeat as with victory and in that case with dignity.

    There are far too many negatives, over-reaction and attacks on the club and players which in my opinion are unbecoming of the Celtic supporter.

    The word ‘supporter’ applies even in defeat, in fact never more so.

    The generations of the spoiled are with us tantrums and all.

    The older heads seen and felt it all before in far worse proportion certainly have a job educating those, that sometimes it is our reaction in defeat that stands us apart from the rest. The Celtic way. KTF.

    1. Lorenzo

      “The generations of the spoiled are with us tantrums and all.

      The older heads seen and felt it all before in far worse proportion certainly have a job educating those, that sometimes it is our reaction in defeat that stands us apart from the rest. The Celtic way. KTF.”

      I hope I am not too presumptuous to count myself among both groups, spoiled and older being able to go back to the 50s and the Lisbon Lions etc. When I rant about Celtic, it is not because of expectations but because of performance. Over the past twelve months or more our teams’ performances, or rather the lack of, are what have stood “us apart from the rest”. It is not the defeat but the manner of it. The old adage of the winning is not what matters but the taking part only applies if you have actually taken part fully and, in my opinion, that has been too often in question with Neil Lennon’s teams.

      I still maintain too that competitions have a ratable value and for the Celtic first team the LC has fallen below that value. That is exactly how the old Glasgow cup expired from first team football and I believe the LC should only be retained at that level for any teams that wish to enter it as such. That does not take away from your very sound argument that we should,

      “Value success in everything entered into.

      Celtic should play competitively in every competition & always play to win.”

      Or, as Peter put it just as eloquently eloquently,

      “If Celtic are competing in a competition, then it’s important.

      We should play every match to win and treat every game with the same determination and respect.
      If we enter a competition and don’t treat it with the same respect, we are cheating the game and cheating the fans who pay money to go and see it.”

      H H

      1. Indeed I endured also.

        It’s these new age space traveller types that fry my head, you know, the permanently complaining, those seeking any excuse to attack the club or custodians, it’s those alleged ‘realer’ supporters than the rest that piss me off.

        ‘There’s a hair on my seat’ Sack the board !!,

        ‘Lennon’s a wrong yin gotta go, he never picked my favourite and I know best !!’..

        Sign him ! sell him ! let us stand !!

        ‘Lawwell & Lennon have got to go if it snows this Christmas’…

        ‘How dare anyone score against us, how dare we lose’

        It’s that NL, PL & PLC,

        ‘It’s the purse strings, the squad, the weather, dammit It’s God’s Himself !!!,

        It’s his fault, they’re fault, his, theirs, his, theirs, fault, blame, fault, blame , etc etc etc.

        Actually…

        It’s pathetic.

        1. L

          What they need is a good dose of standing in the sleet and snow or your face being sandblasted by hailstones at Fir Park watching two teams utterly exhaust themselves plodding through mud and knee deep puddles or a belter going on in the fog that you simply could not see and THEN to get beaten in the League Cup. If they want agony, if they want moan, if they want complain, then that might just have given them the excuse – that’s if their faces were not too frozen to form the words to do so. Ah, the old days. The young ‘uns have never lived and never had it so good.

          Now, wait for it! Here comes the charge of the young brigade. I think I’ll look out that old ball protector from my cricket days. Now there is really meaningless sport to moan about! It would suit some of whom you speak right down to the ground – as they basked in the sunshine,of course :).

          H H

          1. Actually, Lorenzo, I was just thinking how a good kick up the reality rear end usually did it for us.

            H H

          2. Read my blog “My Name Is…” The alternative situation might have a calming effect 🙂

  3. Wullie

    I did make a comment of my own but I think the site was getting “check up” just as I posted. No matter. My reply to Lorenzo and Peter more or less says it for me.

    PS Did the vote thing but I am not sure if it worked. Google kept popping up with wee messages to keep me properly confused as normal.

    H H

  4. It’s a trophy, one of the 3 we can win, so I would like to see us take it more serious. Saying that Lenny started with a VERY strong side last night. Many full international players.
    I say we try and win it. But I can see where Lenny’s thought may be, Barcelona, South West Hunnary at the weekend, maybe he had these 2 games in mind?

    HH

  5. i Agree if were competing in it then its important

    however it may be more important to other teams than to us

    our lackluster performance hurts our mentality
    this time we lose our bragging right over our foes accross the city
    we no longer get to throw out forar jokes

    we hurt our preperation for big games like barcelona
    we also gift bragging rights to morton and not just for beating us last night
    should celtic beat barcelona next week i fully expect morton to claim to be champions of europe

    it means a lot more to the smaller teams … they get to break the monotony of lower league football twice a year in the league cup and the scottish cup
    . they hope to draw the big teams for the glory games the big stadiums and the bright lights, they hope to meet celtic and other teams to play against the best the country has to offer, the european stars.

    not to mention the chance maybe just a little chance that they, yes they could inflict the cup upset of the year…the giant slayer their chance to put their team on the back pages the chance to have their name up in lights if just for one night.

    so my take on the question “is the league cup still important” yes but maybe not for us

    but WHAT WERE THEY THINKING LAST NIGHT ????? now thats a question

    1. david

      I am going to get you to write my comments from now on. You write exactly what I was trying to say in my angry ramble. Cheers!

      H H

  6. Wullie

    Strange poll results so far. 73% for playing youth and 59% for not going. There has to be some kind of contradiction in there surely. You know, in some ways I think I might prefer watching the youth for any games. At least there is still an element of free spirit in the games and not simply tactical strangulation.

    H H

  7. We have never played “friendlies”.Every time a player pulls on the jersey, there are two main aims.
    1.Win
    2.Entertain
    The Day we deviate from that ideal, is the day we are no longer Celtic.
    Simplistic?Yes in my view it is. It always has been simple.Legends are built on trebles, its always been our goal when the season starts and this nonsense of “diddy cup” does my head in.

    Hard up fans, are asked to pay and watch this tournament invariably against so called weaker teams.Its an insult to those fans to We , as Celtic fans are spoiled to a degree.Most other clubs will see winning this cup as a major coup, at one time,Celtic also had this view.

    Different times, different views? Not for me!

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