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Les Gray, who recently retired as chairman of the Scottish Police Federation was on BBC Newsnight Scotland spinning like a spider on Speed. Quite frankly Mr Gray came across as a petty minded man churning out the party line with no real substance to his rent a gob statements.
The images included in the video below may cause embarrassment to Police Scotland and the SNP.
Police State Scotland
Well done to Alex Salmond you got your way and gave your Police force the powers to carry out state condoned thuggery on peaceful protesters. Today my wife ,myself , hundreds of fans and the general public seen the state’s boot boys in all their fascist glory.
How many times have you heard ‘everything was fine till the Police turned up’ ? Well that’s exactly what happened today. What should have been a peaceful march to Celtic Park from the Gollowgate was turned into a brutal assault on freedom of expression and legitimate non violent protest.
People were ‘kettled’, obstructed, harassed and assaulted by Strathclyde police some of whom were brought in from Ayrshire (wonder why?).
The most disgusting thing that happened was a guy with a very young kid who was no part of the fans group was told he would be arrested and his child given to social workers for simply walking down a street. I met the guy and he was as white as a sheet and his toddler was screaming. Keep People Safe ? Orwell would be impressed with that bit of double speak.
I’m still very angry. I’m also willing to swear under oath that I did not see one Celtic fan acting in an aggressive manner. The Police on the other hand did.
Now that we have had statements from both the Green Brigade and Celtic Football club we still await a statement from Strathclyde police on FOCUS operations. I won’t hold my breath.
I welcome the Club’s statement regarding the safety and welfare of the supporters and the fact they have made it clear who fans can complain to if they feel they are being harassed by the Police. Now no one should be in any doubt how to complain to the Club and the Club have no excuse for not following up complaints. Here’s hoping for a truly transparent process. Continue reading “Reaction to the GB and Celtic Statements. #tcnfacfiles”
Last year was somewhat unique. It will rightly be remembered as the year our great rivals died. Yet what seemed to almost slip under the radar amidst the hilarity at Ibrox was the continued harassment of the Green Brigade, and the Celtic fans in general by Strathclyde Police both before and after the SNP legislation was scribbled. We have remained relatively quiet on this issue up until now, but it has got us nowhere and the harassment has continued; in fact it has worsened.
Most Celtic fans heard about the unprecedented case of the 17 year old Celtic fan remanded in custody at HM Polmont Young Offenders Instituiton for an alleged breach of the peace. The fall-out and the protests of other Celtic fans led to that thankfully being overturned before too much damage was done to a young boy.
However, there are numerous other cases that haven’t been made public and so the Police have escaped criticism and been allowed to arrest and charge who they want, when they want. These include three of our members arrested by CID (two at home, one at work) after holding a banner reading ‘Huns FC’. Their case lasted the best part of two years before finally a ‘Not proven’ verdict was delivered.
The cost of that case will have been astronomical. Clearly unhappy at this, the Police arrested one of the above AGAIN, this time for alleged sectarian singing. This never even made the courtroom, after the CCTV was shown outside the court, showing him clearly singing ‘Up the Celts’ much to the embarrassment of the officers who turned up as Prosecution witnesses.
After the highly-successful ‘Fans Against Criminalisation’ demo at George Square, Celtic played Hibs in a bore 0-0 draw.
The game will be remembered by many though, after the Police unnecessarily waded into 111 looking to make arrests for reasons unknown. On the concourse after the game, they successfully arrested one of our members, accusing him of abusing their officers. Again, this was nothing but a blatant lie and led to another court case with THREE different trial dates.
A Not Guilty verdict was returned when the case was finally heard.
A month or so later, and we had another member in court. This time his alleged crime was for ‘assault and resisting arrest’ at a Semi-final at Hampden. Again though, he was found not guilty. We have some other court cases pending as we speak, but we are confident these will go the same way as every other one so far. However, they are still obviously causing massive inconvenience and are having a huge effect on people’s livelihoods.
These charges have all led to our members missing matches watching and supporting the team they love. Celtic had banned every one of them while the cases were on-going. Indeed, the club do all they can to facilitate the Police and have offered no help whatsoever to their own support. After the match in Udine in December, Celtic banned a handful of supporters after flares were lit before kick off. One of these fans was a female season book holder in 111 whom, rather bizarrely, was watching the match from the comfort of her own living room! Thankfully, this was overturned eventually after it was pointed out to Celtic security that they had quite clearly made a rather embarrassing yet damaging mistake.
The level of surveillance applied to section 111 and the Green Brigade specifically verges on the surreal and is an astronomical waste of tax payers’ money. 90 minute surveillance clearly isn’t sufficient though as we learn from being filmed when approaching and leaving stadiums. A small band of Strathclyde Police following our members around Europe attempting to make their trips abroad uncomfortable also now appears to be common practice. Perhaps the hardest one for us to take is being filmed when inside Celtic Park hours early setting up for a display. Further from Celtic officials obviously accommodating such procedures they now believe it to be acceptable to hand over personal details of our members. Private information such as mobile phone numbers, names and addresses have been swapping hands without consent, even in instances where there is no alleged crime to answer for. Sadly, for us at least, this type of behaviour isn’t wholly surprising from Celtic officials – whether it is being sanctioned by Chief Executive Peter Lawwell who privately described our songs as ‘cancerous’ or Head of Security Ronnie Hawthorn who willingly will ban dedicated Celtic supporters offering them no chance of a defence against their alleged breach.
In recent weeks there has been a noticeable upsurge from Strathclyde Police in targeting the Celtic support. Up until now they have tried and failed to secure convictions for singing Irish Republican songs, attempting to concoct all manner of charges desperate to find one that will stick. Under their new ‘Anti-Football Legislation’ they are now targeting the Roll of Honour with a number of fans being arrested and charged with ‘offensive behaviour’ and even ‘Racial BOTP’ for singing this song. The most recent arrest being one of our members who was arrested while leaving Celtic Park at the Kilmarnock fixture and who has only just been released after being handed a weekend in the cells. Co-coincidentally, or ironically even, the accused just happens to be someone who has already been through the charade of a football charge with all the accompanying delights and he came away victorious. You’d excuse his paranoia for thinking he was being targeted and tested here.
Perhaps quite unbelievable to some it is not just at or around matches where we get such unwarranted attention. A few months ago one of our members applied for a licence to become a taxi driver. Normally, this would be a straight-forward procedure for a young man with nothing but a minor Breach of the Peace charge from his teenage years. Not quite. He received a letter explaining that his application had been rejected on the grounds that he’s not a ‘fit and proper person’ – an accusation based solely on his connections to the Green Brigade. This had come from the Chief Constable. Thankfully, after appeal, the licence was granted in the end but with no thanks to Strathclyde Police.
The above is just some of the instances of police harassment in the last 10-12 months. Not only is it causing innocent football fans great stress and hitting them badly in the pocket, it’s also costing the taxpayer a fortune. For too long, we have sat back and let them do as they please but it has to stop, and we hope that the coming weeks and months will eventually see a change in their approach and we can get back to supporting our team without fear of arrest at home or away. We believe we sacrifice an awful lot as individuals and as a group in what we do. We dedicate our time and money for our passion of supporting Celtic in our style and we have always attempted to maintain an amicable working relationship with Celtic employees for the benefit of both parties – even when in dispute over certain issues. However we will not tolerate the level of harassment we continue to face nor Celtic PLC’s compliant attitude.
Before you read this from 2012 here is a wee note to James Dornan MSP. James I know you read this site so in future if you are going to quote or use anything on this site in the debating chamber here are two tips.
Make sure you quote correct numbers, not ones you make up.
Check the actual date the article was first published.
You really made a clown of yourself.
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Let me start by stating that I want Independence for Scotland, I intend to vote yes in the referendum in 2014. However in tomorrows coulncil elections I plan to vote for a local independent candidate. This will be my protest to remind the SNP that I am not happy at the way the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012. was forced through the Scot’s Parliament.
This was against the wishes of the general public and to my mind criminalised a section of Scottish society. I said at the time I would not forget that and I won’t when I vote in the local council elections tomorrow. Anyone who witnessed the Glasgow derby at the weekend will have noticed this legislation did not make one bit of difference.
I urge every other football fan in Scotland to do the same. Hopefully this will give the SNP the kick up the arse that they need and ensures that his law is withdrawn before the 2014 referendum.
The SNP have got their way and pushed through an ill thought out and dangerous piece of legislation against the wishes of most of the country. They have succeeded in criminalising football supporters and done absolutely nothing about sectarianism in Scottish society. This smacks of narrow minded thinking and total arrogance. Continue reading “Remember today when you go to the ballot box #tcnfacfiles”
TCN FAC Files No 14 of 84 Nov 26th 2011
Here’s a few Scottish songs that might put you in Jail under the new law.
These songs are openly seditious to the Crown, openly anti English and one openly slates King William of Orange. As a Scotsman I’m proud of these songs. However this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as oppression in Scotland is concerned. Scotland got totally raped in the same way as Ireland did by the English and their home grown collaborators (now known as the Conservative and Unionist Party ). Continue reading “Illicit Scottish Songs. Your move Alex. #tcnfacfiles”
FOLLOWING the release today of figures by the Scottish Government relating to charges under Section 74 of the Criminal Justice Scotland Act 2003 for the year 2010-2011, Celtic Football Club have released the following statement.
“Celtic Football Club welcomes the Crime and Justice report issued today. However, for clarity it is important to explain these figures and place these in context.
”It is noted that Celtic Park is mentioned as being the location for 47 charges. Fourteen of these offences relate to Celtic supporters, with 33 relating to supporters of visiting teams. (figs. provided by the Information Sharing Protocol with Strathclyde Police).
”To again put this in context, during that period approximately one million Celtic supporters visited the stadium, and approximately 35,000 supporters of away teams have attended Celtic Park.
”It is important also to stress that the 14 Celtic supporters involved have all been banned from Celtic Park.
“The vast majority of religiously-aggravated crime does not take place in or around football stadia, with 90 offences reported at stadia out of a total of 693 offences.
”The claim that 231 offences are ‘football-related’ also needs further analysis. The majority of ´football-related´ offences take place away from football stadia .
”In addition, more than 60 per cent of the total number of offences are alcohol-related. It is clear, therefore, that this also re-enforces Celtic´s long-held view that sectarianism and religious prejudice are societal issues and cannot be laid predominantly at the door of football.
”Clearly, as a club open to all since its formation in 1888, Celtic will continue to work strenuously against all forms of bigotry and religious prejudice.
“While the vast majority of offences at Celtic Park have been committed by visiting supporters, it is important that our own support understands that any form of sectarian behaviour is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
“Celtic´s traditions of tolerance, diversity and openness are something we hold very dear and are fundamental to the Club´s ethos.”
So 14 Celtic Fans arrested from approx 1 million in attendance and 33 from approx 35,000 “away” supporters? This tells it’s own story. Time for the politicians, Police and media to back off from us and concentrate on the real culprits. We all know who they are.
Published on Wednesday 16th November, 2011 by Celtic Trust
Many of you will be aware of the case of the young boy from Section 111 who was held in prison from Friday of last week till late last night when he was released, on the orders of the Lord Advocate, from Polmont Prison. All this for the terrible crime of singing a song at a football match two weeks previously. This case highlights the fear that many of us have around both the introduction of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Bill and the zealous nature of the policing of football in the run-up to it.
Many of us are clear that if we cannot defeat this Bill then we will need to be ready to defend Celtic fans on a case by case basis and some of the existing supporters’ organisations have committed themselves to this. However, there have been a number of calls for a Defence Fund to be set up and this has now been done.
The FAC Legal Defence Fund has now been launched. A bank account is being set up which will have as its main signatories Alex Mosson, the former Lord Provost of Glasgow and a member of the Board of the Celtic Trust; John Andrews, the President of the Celtic Supporters’ Association and Alan Horne, the President of the Affiliation of Registered Celtic Supporters Clubs. In the meantime, you will be able donate via Paypal on those sites belonging to the member organisations of FAC who have this facility ie the Celtic Trust, the CSA, the Affiliation, the Irish Association and the Green Brigade.
If you are donating to the Fund in this way, please remember to indicate that the donation is for the FAC LDF. If you forget to do this on Paypal then a simple email with the details to the relevant organisation should suffice.
The Celtic Trust paypal button can be found at the bottom of the home page and is marked Donate.
The wife and myself made it down to Whitehill secondary for the FAC public meeting. We arrived around 12.45 and left by 1.00.
We were really looking forward to to hearing the speakers and getting ideas on pushing the campaign forward. Unfortunately five minutes after we arrived a group of RFC casuals turned up and announced themselves by shouting “Trick or Treat”. They sat themselves at the back of the small lecture theatre and someone from FAC told them that this was a serious meeting and that no one wanted any trouble. Not one of them had the decency to answer or allay any fears that they were there disrupt the meeting.
My wife became very uneasy with the atmosphere that developed so I suggested that we go out and move the car into the car park get some fresh air and then see how she felt. Well she made it clear when we were outside that she did not want to go back in. I agreed because I had a real nasty feeling about these lowlifes. They were not there to support the campaign but to disrupt the meeting. So we headed home. On the way back to the car we met another Celtic fan who said there was no point staying after “they” had turned up.
I don’t know what happened after we left but I’ve read some unsavoury chants were made. The problem with the Rangers support is that they have a large group of mindless facist thugs who follow that club. These people represent the dregs of Scottish society.
I feel sorry for those who organised and attended the meeting in good faith but once again Scotland’s Shame ruined the day.
There will be a Fans Against Criminalisation Public Meeting on Saturday 12 November (next Saturday) from 1-2.30.
Following on from the debate in the Scottish Parliament last week when the Government-sponsored Bill was opposed by every single MSP except those of the Government’s own party, it is important that we push on with the united opposition to this unnecessary but very dangerous legislation.
Details of speakers to follow. Please pass this information around.
The meeting will now take place between 1.00 and 2.30 at Whitehill Secondary School, 280 Onslow Drive Dennistoun G31 2QF.
ustice Committee of the Scottish Parliament publishes its Stage 1 report on the Repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communication (Scotland) 2012 Act
Following the largest public consultation that the Scottish Parliament has ever had on any issue, the Justice Committee began hearing oral evidence on 3rd October 2017. There followed several sessions which involvedlegal bodies, fans groups, the football authorities, academics, the police and civil rights and equalities bodies and which concluded on 12 December 2017.
The overwhelming message which was given to the Justice Committee was that the Act was unnecessary, illiberal, damaging to police-fan relations and potentially in breach of the European Convention on Human Rights.
In light of this, the Justice Committee has today recommended the Repeal Bill to the Parliament and the vote on the Stage 1 report will take place on 25th of September.
We call on all MSPs to recognise that this law is bad law, it is a failure and it needs to be repealed as a matter of urgency so that the injustice meted out to young football fans can stop and the damage which it has caused can begin to be repaired. This also leaves the way clear for a sensible and mature discussion to take place which addresses those social issues which the Act was alleged to be about but which have been advanced not one iota since 2011.
Having campaigned against this Act for close to seven years, we now look forward to the next stage in the process (amendments) and the eventual Stage 3 vote which will see this ‘stain on the reputation of the Scottish legal system’ finally removed.
TCN FAC Files No 7 of 84 Oct 29th 2011
Today’s first demonstration arranged by Fans Against Criminalisation was a great success. The turnout was great over 2,000 Celtic fans turned up to show their support for the cause. One of the most pleasing aspects was age and gender range of the demonstrators.
The rally got under way just after 12.30 when a spokesman from F.A.C opened the rally (apologies as I did not catch all of the names of the speakers) F.A.C spelled out the reason that we were all there for. We will not be criminalised or blamed for the failure of politicians, the Police and the judiciary in this country to tackle sectarianism and racism. Neither will we be blamed for public disorder and wife beating.
A representative from the Celtic Trust Jeanette Findlay informed us of the underhanded approach taken by Msp’s who wish to criminalise the Celtic Support to “even the balance”. We all know this proposed law is in part about dragging our support down with the real bigots. Jeanette also reminded us of the complete nonsense trotted out by some Msp’s that people may face criminal prosecution for signing God Save The Queen or blessing yourself. It was also highlighted that most cases of domestic violence take place around the 24th-26th of December and the 1st and 2nd of January. So the question was asked. Are they going to ban Xmas and New Year ?
Joe O’Rourke General Secretary of the Celtic Supporters Association was next to speak. Joe is a seasoned campaigner for Celtic fans and the club in general and he wasted not time in pointing the finger at the Crown Office who mysteriously destroyed data that proved the vast majority of sectarian attacks were against Roman Catholics especially around Orange Order parades. Joe also made it clear that CSA will stand behind any Celtic fan who is wrongfully charged, prosecuted or imprisoned. I had the pleasure of meeting Joe after the demo and he’s agreed to do a wee piece for TCN on this nonsense over the next few weeks.
There was also a representative of Association of Irish Celtic Supporters Clubs who informed the crowd of the intimidation of Celtic fans travelling over from Ireland to support their club. It’s fantastic to know that we have the full support of our brothers and sisters from across the Irish sea.
After the rally the demonstrators began a good natured and well behaved march to Celtic park. Shortly before kick off many banners were displayed around the whole stadium from CSC’s calling for this bill to be killed.
The whole feeling from start to finish was brilliant. It was my nephews first ever political demonstration and I was proud that he realised just how special Celtic FC and the Celtic family is.
This is just the beginning. F.A.C will be rolling out more events over the weeks and months ahead. We ask that all Celtic fans no matter where you live around the world make your voices heard and stand shoulder to shoulder with Fans Against Criminalisation.
TCN FAC Files No 6 of 84 Oct 18th 2011
Fans Against Criminalisation will be holding our first public demonstration against the Bill in Glasgow’s George Square on Saturday, 29th October at 12.30 (assemble 12 noon).
George Square is the historic seat of civic government in Glasgow and has been Scotland’s place of protest for a century or more. In 1919, the military were deployed to break a mass protest outside the City Chambers while more recently it has been the rallying point for Poll Tax and anti-war protests.
It is now time for Celtic fans to unite and show Alex Salmond that, like the Poll Tax was for Thatcher, the unnecessary, unworkable and discriminatory Offensive Behaviour at Football Bill could be his downfall. Come along and support Fans Against Criminalisation and send Salmond and co. the message that we will not be criminalised.
We would all like to see an end to Sectarianism ,Racism and Bigotry especially us Celtic fans who have mainly been on the receiving end but this bill is completely flawed, ill thought out and an attack on freedom of speech and expression. It also singles out football fans as scapegoats for social problems that politicians and the Police have failed to address.
Today the Labour Party refused to back this bill which is to be welcomed. It’s a pity that the Labour Party and other parties were too quick to jump on Mr Salmond’s band waggon before the last election, alas that’s politicians for you.
“The overwhelming weight of legal opinion is against the new law as being both unnecessary and impractical”. A senior law figure
There are huge concerns being voiced across the legal establishment and human rights activists. You can make your way through some of these links and you will find that this law is not only impracticable but is also Unnecessary.
When I set up TCN in 2011 it was against the background of the so called ‘shame game’ and the SNP’s ‘Summit’. Little did I realise that football fans from every club in Scotland would be criminalised from the outcome of the SNP’s ‘summit’. I won’t rake over the coals of the ‘shame’ game, we all have eyes in our head and as such know what happened. Continue reading “Welcome to The Celtic Network FAC Files”